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Not sure I understand the hate on tap to click? A single tap has always felt more responsive than a forced click, especially when clicking on a larger trackpad

by canaus 5y ago

Not sure I understand the hate on tap to click? A single tap has always felt more responsive than a forced click, especially when clicking on a larger trackpad that has to have a large percentage of the pad actuated. I think the use of multiple fingers is a better solution than an arbitrary click length. Two finger tap for extra options has been a game changer for me.

ziml77 5y ago
Because simply putting my finger onto the trackpad may trigger a click when I only intended to move the cursor or even just rest my finger. Leads to unintentionally following links or dragging things around.
- canaus 5y ago
  Is there a reason why you have to rest your finger on the trackpad? For myself I view the trackpad as the one place you'd want to avoid resting any appendages on, unless you need to interact with it. For example, I haven't heard of similar arguments for a phone's touch screen, probably because you don't rest your thumbs on the screen itself.
  - ziml77 5y ago
    Maybe resting it there was the wrong way to put it. It's more like I think I'm going to want to move the cursor in the next few seconds, so I put my finger down there. Sure, I could train myself to not do that if I really needed to, but the thing is that I don't need to since I can turn off tap to click. I'm not sure why phones are different here though. This isn't something I've been conscious of. Maybe it's because the thumb's natural position when holding a phone is to actually hover above the screen? Or maybe touches just register differently enough on a phone that it's not a problem?
    - weikju 5y ago
      At least on my Macs, if I rest my finger on the trackpad, without moving, thinking of where to move the cursor next... It doesn't register as a click. It acts exactly as expected: if I lift my finger, it still won't register as a click, and if I start gliding on the trackpad, it will register as mouse movements.
- towb 5y ago
  But it's not just putting a finger on the trackpad, that doesn't trigger a click. It's a really quick tap. But I'm not out to convince anyone so do your thing :)
toomim 5y ago
> Not sure I understand the hate on tap to click? Sometimes I start to move the mouse cursor, and then change my mind, after I put my finger down, but before I move it. This room-for-indecision is totally fine if I'm using push-to-click, but tap-to-click doesn't let me just hang out with my finger touching the mouse cursor. As a result, if you're using tap-to-click, you are forced to think about what you're doing before you do it. You can't think while in the process of doing it. This means that your finger becomes less of an extension of your brain. You have to keep more private, and inside. You are less embodied.
- weikju 5y ago
  > This room-for-indecision is totally fine if I'm using push-to-click, but tap-to-click doesn't let me just hang out with my finger touching the mouse cursor. This works as expected on my Macs with tap to click turned on. see my other comment in this thread.

by canaus 5y ago

ziml77 5y ago

Because simply putting my finger onto the trackpad may trigger a click when I only intended to move the cursor or even just rest my finger. Leads to unintentionally following links or dragging things around.

canaus 5y ago
Is there a reason why you have to rest your finger on the trackpad? For myself I view the trackpad as the one place you'd want to avoid resting any appendages on, unless you need to interact with it. For example, I haven't heard of similar arguments for a phone's touch screen, probably because you don't rest your thumbs on the screen itself.
- ziml77 5y ago
  Maybe resting it there was the wrong way to put it. It's more like I think I'm going to want to move the cursor in the next few seconds, so I put my finger down there. Sure, I could train myself to not do that if I really needed to, but the thing is that I don't need to since I can turn off tap to click. I'm not sure why phones are different here though. This isn't something I've been conscious of. Maybe it's because the thumb's natural position when holding a phone is to actually hover above the screen? Or maybe touches just register differently enough on a phone that it's not a problem?
  - weikju 5y ago
    At least on my Macs, if I rest my finger on the trackpad, without moving, thinking of where to move the cursor next... It doesn't register as a click. It acts exactly as expected: if I lift my finger, it still won't register as a click, and if I start gliding on the trackpad, it will register as mouse movements.
towb 5y ago
But it's not just putting a finger on the trackpad, that doesn't trigger a click. It's a really quick tap. But I'm not out to convince anyone so do your thing :)

toomim 5y ago

> Not sure I understand the hate on tap to click? Sometimes I start to move the mouse cursor, and then change my mind, after I put my finger down, but before I move it. This room-for-indecision is totally fine if I'm using push-to-click, but tap-to-click doesn't let me just hang out with my finger touching the mouse cursor. As a result, if you're using tap-to-click, you are forced to think about what you're doing before you do it. You can't think while in the process of doing it. This means that your finger becomes less of an extension of your brain. You have to keep more private, and inside. You are less embodied.

weikju 5y ago
> This room-for-indecision is totally fine if I'm using push-to-click, but tap-to-click doesn't let me just hang out with my finger touching the mouse cursor. This works as expected on my Macs with tap to click turned on. see my other comment in this thread.