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GrapheneOS runs all open source software (no closed source Google code), doesn't phone home to Google, doesn't allow for targeted updates based on IMEI, has str

GrapheneOS runs all open source software (no closed source Google code), doesn't phone home to Google, doesn't allow for targeted updates based on IMEI, has strong app memory isolation, and isn't vulnerable to run of the mill NSO zero days. Buy a Mint Mobile SIM card with cash and boom, anonymous phone not tied to your name.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Yet you're connecting to T-mobile towers and having your location tracked 24/7. How is that in any way private?
- LogonType10 5y ago
  My phone is in a faraday bag when it gets anywhere close to my home or place of work. Even if you were bulk collecting cell tower data and location data you couldn't identify my phone, it's lost in the noise.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Your disconnects will flag it in the metadata. You don’t think they can identify phones in bulk collection? What evidence is there of that?
    - LogonType10 5y ago
      >Your disconnects will flag it in the metadata. This would make too many false positives, for which you'd have to do in person surveillance to verify. >You don’t think they can identify phones in bulk collection? What evidence is there of that? It doesn't matter if a cell tower can read your IMEI. It matters if that IMEI can be associated with your real name. Have you seen anyone's location data successfully correlated with a real identity when that location data doesn't include travel to residence or place of work? If you can solve this problem, you can sell it for more money than you could fathom.
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        You don’t think they can match location data with metadata and figure it out? Circumstantial evidence is easily used to figure it out.
        LogonType10 5y ago
        >You don’t think they can match location data with metadata and figure it out? Automatically, with dragnet surveillance? Not a chance, the search space is too huge. But if you think it's so easy, feel free to try building this and selling it, you would become the next billionaire.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        Already made. It’s automatically matched to other databases like apartment records and other public information. Signature electronic radiation leak is easily traceable, probably logged unless you never connect it to any other devices. The delusion you have about being private while having a device that tracks your location has no logic or evidence of privacy. Expecting cell phones using cellular towers for privacy is the equivalent of joining a botnet and saying you’re private if you block the signal occasionally.
        LogonType10 5y ago
        Please don't be snarky and assume the weakest possible interpretation of what someone says (I already talked about faraday bags near residences and workplaces). Repeatedly calling another's argument delusional without substantive discussion isn't helpful and it's not what people use HN for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        You say snarky things like build a database, it'll make you a billionare, (which already exists) to track you that you were ignorant about then try to feint innocence and attack my conduct? There is no snark in facts. You’re connecting to a triangulating system that traces your location and expect privacy if you use some open source android distribution which you assume has zero bugs that others can't exploit and trace you. That is delusional. The device has a signature electronic radiation that is easily identifiable whenever its on, which you ignored as a method of tracing. There is zero factual evidence that you can be private when using cell phones at all. It is a delusion with no basis. You don’t make any substantive arguments that proves privacy aside from hopeful/delusional assumptions that aren’t sourced or prove any privacy. You think buying a sim card with cash is enough to protect your identity when stores have cameras and your fingerprint is on cash? Where is your evidence that you are private?

GhettoComputers 5y ago

Yet you're connecting to T-mobile towers and having your location tracked 24/7. How is that in any way private?

LogonType10 5y ago
My phone is in a faraday bag when it gets anywhere close to my home or place of work. Even if you were bulk collecting cell tower data and location data you couldn't identify my phone, it's lost in the noise.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Your disconnects will flag it in the metadata. You don’t think they can identify phones in bulk collection? What evidence is there of that?
  - LogonType10 5y ago
    >Your disconnects will flag it in the metadata. This would make too many false positives, for which you'd have to do in person surveillance to verify. >You don’t think they can identify phones in bulk collection? What evidence is there of that? It doesn't matter if a cell tower can read your IMEI. It matters if that IMEI can be associated with your real name. Have you seen anyone's location data successfully correlated with a real identity when that location data doesn't include travel to residence or place of work? If you can solve this problem, you can sell it for more money than you could fathom.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      You don’t think they can match location data with metadata and figure it out? Circumstantial evidence is easily used to figure it out.
      - LogonType10 5y ago
        >You don’t think they can match location data with metadata and figure it out? Automatically, with dragnet surveillance? Not a chance, the search space is too huge. But if you think it's so easy, feel free to try building this and selling it, you would become the next billionaire.
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        Already made. It’s automatically matched to other databases like apartment records and other public information. Signature electronic radiation leak is easily traceable, probably logged unless you never connect it to any other devices. The delusion you have about being private while having a device that tracks your location has no logic or evidence of privacy. Expecting cell phones using cellular towers for privacy is the equivalent of joining a botnet and saying you’re private if you block the signal occasionally.
        LogonType10 5y ago
        Please don't be snarky and assume the weakest possible interpretation of what someone says (I already talked about faraday bags near residences and workplaces). Repeatedly calling another's argument delusional without substantive discussion isn't helpful and it's not what people use HN for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        You say snarky things like build a database, it'll make you a billionare, (which already exists) to track you that you were ignorant about then try to feint innocence and attack my conduct? There is no snark in facts. You’re connecting to a triangulating system that traces your location and expect privacy if you use some open source android distribution which you assume has zero bugs that others can't exploit and trace you. That is delusional. The device has a signature electronic radiation that is easily identifiable whenever its on, which you ignored as a method of tracing. There is zero factual evidence that you can be private when using cell phones at all. It is a delusion with no basis. You don’t make any substantive arguments that proves privacy aside from hopeful/delusional assumptions that aren’t sourced or prove any privacy. You think buying a sim card with cash is enough to protect your identity when stores have cameras and your fingerprint is on cash? Where is your evidence that you are private?