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It's funny to me that you think Musk isn't an "always-be-selling" type of person and that you think he speaks his mind without spewing "corporate speak" because

It's funny to me that you think Musk isn't an "always-be-selling" type of person and that you think he speaks his mind without spewing "corporate speak" because to me, "Musk speak" is just another form of corporate speak. Musk isn't so much "speaking the truth", he's more "selling things, his way".

__s 5y ago
That's cool; I was just answering ghostly_'s question as to whom systemvoltage was implying
jaywalk 5y ago
You've essentially expanded the definition of "corporate speak" to be "anything a person in a leadership position says"
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  When you're a corporate leader, the way you speak is by default a form of corporate speak, because as a public figure who is listened to, everything you say is a reflection of the brand.
  - jaywalk 5y ago
    No. Corporate speak is a specific way of speaking.
    - kreeben 5y ago
      Will you agree with this? Corporate speak, definition: - to say what's in the best interest of the corporation, no matter what the circumstance - to not tell the truth, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation - to not tell a lie, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation For the "Musk speak" definition, simply replace "the corporation" with "Musk".
      - Apocryphon 5y ago
        I think there's a specific "corporate style" of speaking that's very stiff and blandly positive, which is what they're thinking of when they're saying corporate speak. But I agree with your point and was making it, even though Musk speak is a different style, it ultimately works the same way as the corporate style, which is to buff up his brand in a way that maximizes shareholder value. Musk speak might not be the corporate style, but it's still a form of corporate speak, as per your definition.
Apocryphon 5y ago
Exactly, his shtick just happens to be the complete opposite of conventional corporate speak. It's edgy "tell-it-like-it-is" trolling, but it's still designed to build a brand and a relationship with the consumer. He's not even the only corpo who does that.

__s 5y ago

That's cool; I was just answering ghostly_'s question as to whom systemvoltage was implying

jaywalk 5y ago

You've essentially expanded the definition of "corporate speak" to be "anything a person in a leadership position says"

Apocryphon 5y ago
When you're a corporate leader, the way you speak is by default a form of corporate speak, because as a public figure who is listened to, everything you say is a reflection of the brand.
- jaywalk 5y ago
  No. Corporate speak is a specific way of speaking.
  - kreeben 5y ago
    Will you agree with this? Corporate speak, definition: - to say what's in the best interest of the corporation, no matter what the circumstance - to not tell the truth, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation - to not tell a lie, unless it's something that can become a huge PR success for the corporation For the "Musk speak" definition, simply replace "the corporation" with "Musk".
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      I think there's a specific "corporate style" of speaking that's very stiff and blandly positive, which is what they're thinking of when they're saying corporate speak. But I agree with your point and was making it, even though Musk speak is a different style, it ultimately works the same way as the corporate style, which is to buff up his brand in a way that maximizes shareholder value. Musk speak might not be the corporate style, but it's still a form of corporate speak, as per your definition.

Apocryphon 5y ago

Exactly, his shtick just happens to be the complete opposite of conventional corporate speak. It's edgy "tell-it-like-it-is" trolling, but it's still designed to build a brand and a relationship with the consumer. He's not even the only corpo who does that.