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You need to read enough to be sick to realize what it is. In part because even the title is clickbait. Even the tl;dr manages to inject some platitudes before

You need to read enough to be sick to realize what it is. In part because even the title is clickbait. Even the tl;dr manages to inject some platitudes before getting to the point. - And you're arguing a strawman. The comment you replied to never implied he shouldn't say farewell. They're complaining about how utterly insincere it comes across being blasted full of every trite corporate saying in existence If anything they're arguing for more of a farewell than this, and it would have taken less effort too. I wonder why it upsets you that someone would complain about this though, do you have a personal attachment to Nat?

junon 5y ago
> I wonder why it upsets you that someone would complain about this though, do you have a personal attachment to Nat? Please point to where I implied I was at all upset.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  That last sentence alone "if it's so bad why read it?" is clearly something an upset person would say. - But this is HN where inferring tone is apparently a step too far in terms of speculation, so here. Have an ML model tell you how upset you sound: https://i.imgur.com/nztQgdY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nztQgdY.jpg
  - e0a74c 5y ago
    I have no dog in this race but it sounds like you're assuming that a sentence with a negative sentiment (whatever that actually means) must have been created by a person who's upset. A bit of a stretch, no?
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      A tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact HN users act like basic social skills like the ability to infer tone are voodoo gets dissected like this? You can't make up this stuff up. To the reply: > would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise You're close to getting it! In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Going "show me where I said I'm upset!!" instead of just clarifying is not acceptable in a social setting. Busting out an ML model is just holding up the mirror. - > I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read. I'm not responsible for teaching people how basic social interactions work, yet here we are...
      - junon 5y ago
        > HN users act [lack] basic social skills I believe using a sentiment analysis tool you googled for to back up an assumption you made about me and my character would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise. Just pointing this out. My original comment was made with an informative/inquisitive tone. I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read.
      - e0a74c 5y ago
        You sound upset ;) (sorry, couldn't help myself. I think you're all great simply for being here and applying your intellects!)
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        Of course you couldn't help yourself, I poopoo'd on your dog in the race and you couldn't think of something meaningful to reply with. - And I am upset, I hate working in one of the few industries where people wear social ineptitude like a badge: Like someone says something when they're clearly upset, you ask why they're upset, then suddenly they derail the conversation because "how dare you imply I am some descendant of a caveman capable of being shudder upset" Like holy shit, real people get upset! Wowie what a concept! Dude was upset someone insulted his rockstar idol that everyone in SV knows and got called out. I jokingly tell him even a computer can see he's upset and now there's literally another reply to me by this "peter" person picking a fight with the computer! - Maybe you're all stuck in this weird passive aggressive bubble of timidity (maybe that's the "everyone") where you're not allowed to express emotion but I'm not going to coddle you, not here or in real life This person was upset. They didn't need to present it as some passive aggressive "informative", like the guy they replied to didn't know they couldn't read it. They're just not used to having to deal with emotions directly instead of being as biting as possible while seeming... "informative"
      - peterdn 5y ago
        > In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it. Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to literally the most negative and upset-sounding post in this chain: the one that started it. What does your ML model think of "I'm gonna throw up on my keyboard"?

junon 5y ago

> I wonder why it upsets you that someone would complain about this though, do you have a personal attachment to Nat? Please point to where I implied I was at all upset.

BoorishBears 5y ago
That last sentence alone "if it's so bad why read it?" is clearly something an upset person would say. - But this is HN where inferring tone is apparently a step too far in terms of speculation, so here. Have an ML model tell you how upset you sound: https://i.imgur.com/nztQgdY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nztQgdY.jpg
- e0a74c 5y ago
  I have no dog in this race but it sounds like you're assuming that a sentence with a negative sentiment (whatever that actually means) must have been created by a person who's upset. A bit of a stretch, no?
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    A tongue-in-cheek reference to the fact HN users act like basic social skills like the ability to infer tone are voodoo gets dissected like this? You can't make up this stuff up. To the reply: > would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise You're close to getting it! In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Going "show me where I said I'm upset!!" instead of just clarifying is not acceptable in a social setting. Busting out an ML model is just holding up the mirror. - > I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read. I'm not responsible for teaching people how basic social interactions work, yet here we are...
    - junon 5y ago
      > HN users act [lack] basic social skills I believe using a sentiment analysis tool you googled for to back up an assumption you made about me and my character would not be acceptable in any social setting otherwise. Just pointing this out. My original comment was made with an informative/inquisitive tone. I am not responsible for how the voice in your head portrays what you read.
    - e0a74c 5y ago
      You sound upset ;) (sorry, couldn't help myself. I think you're all great simply for being here and applying your intellects!)
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        Of course you couldn't help yourself, I poopoo'd on your dog in the race and you couldn't think of something meaningful to reply with. - And I am upset, I hate working in one of the few industries where people wear social ineptitude like a badge: Like someone says something when they're clearly upset, you ask why they're upset, then suddenly they derail the conversation because "how dare you imply I am some descendant of a caveman capable of being shudder upset" Like holy shit, real people get upset! Wowie what a concept! Dude was upset someone insulted his rockstar idol that everyone in SV knows and got called out. I jokingly tell him even a computer can see he's upset and now there's literally another reply to me by this "peter" person picking a fight with the computer! - Maybe you're all stuck in this weird passive aggressive bubble of timidity (maybe that's the "everyone") where you're not allowed to express emotion but I'm not going to coddle you, not here or in real life This person was upset. They didn't need to present it as some passive aggressive "informative", like the guy they replied to didn't know they couldn't read it. They're just not used to having to deal with emotions directly instead of being as biting as possible while seeming... "informative"
    - peterdn 5y ago
      > In a normal social setting if someone says "If you don't like X don't interact with it!" that can reasonably understood as a negative statement. Except they didn't say that, did they? What they said verbatim was "simply do not read it" which is a much more reasonable tone than how you seemingly interpreted it. Whether it's negative or not also depends on the context which in this case is a proposed solution to literally the most negative and upset-sounding post in this chain: the one that started it. What does your ML model think of "I'm gonna throw up on my keyboard"?