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Daily stand ups are _hell_ because they always end up taking ~1 hour for 3 people. If you say more than what you're doing, what you've done, and whether you're

by miah_ 5y ago

Daily stand ups are _hell_ because they always end up taking ~1 hour for 3 people. If you say more than what you're doing, what you've done, and whether you're blocked or not you're saying too much during your standup. It shouldn't take you more than 3 minutes to give your status. The entire stand-up shouldn't take more than ~10 minutes. Remember, you're supposed to stand up to make it kinda uncomfortable and informal. Everybody video-chatting their standup has made it too easy to be relaxed and waste time.

BeetleB 5y ago
> Daily stand ups are _hell_ because they always end up taking ~1 hour for 3 people. In the one team I was in that had standups, most of the developers would definitely leave after 15 minutes whether someone was talking or not. This put pressure on the others to keep it short.
spicybright 5y ago
I'm sorry for your pain, a 1 hour stand up isn't a stand up at all. My company has a hard 15 min limit for ~8 engineers. It's a good opportunity for people to speak up if they can help, and give a simple "let's talk after about this". Tech details get shut down by the PM after a minute or two unless it's actually useful to most of the people there. It's very rare we go over the 15 min mark. That said, I still have some long and pointless meetings, but I'm thankful I can throw them to a third monitor and keep working in the background. Doing a boring meeting in person would be hell without that ability imo!
icoder 5y ago
An hour sound terrible, given it is daily. That's a serious part of your workday (week, year)! Where I work it's 10-15 minutes for 10-15 people. We're with a bunch of disciplines (hardware, embedded, mobile and cloud) so it gives me a birds eye view of the bigger picture and some insights into where my activities will touch others, and where I can help or provide ideas. In addition, especially now we're remote, it's a way to sync up the devs time-wise. Some days a small ad-hoc group (2-4) will stay in the meeting to discuss an issue at hand. Plus often bilaterals are planned 'after the standup', since we're all in, and in meeting mode at that point anyway.

by miah_ 5y ago

BeetleB 5y ago

> Daily stand ups are _hell_ because they always end up taking ~1 hour for 3 people. In the one team I was in that had standups, most of the developers would definitely leave after 15 minutes whether someone was talking or not. This put pressure on the others to keep it short.

spicybright 5y ago

I'm sorry for your pain, a 1 hour stand up isn't a stand up at all. My company has a hard 15 min limit for ~8 engineers. It's a good opportunity for people to speak up if they can help, and give a simple "let's talk after about this". Tech details get shut down by the PM after a minute or two unless it's actually useful to most of the people there. It's very rare we go over the 15 min mark. That said, I still have some long and pointless meetings, but I'm thankful I can throw them to a third monitor and keep working in the background. Doing a boring meeting in person would be hell without that ability imo!

icoder 5y ago

An hour sound terrible, given it is daily. That's a serious part of your workday (week, year)! Where I work it's 10-15 minutes for 10-15 people. We're with a bunch of disciplines (hardware, embedded, mobile and cloud) so it gives me a birds eye view of the bigger picture and some insights into where my activities will touch others, and where I can help or provide ideas. In addition, especially now we're remote, it's a way to sync up the devs time-wise. Some days a small ad-hoc group (2-4) will stay in the meeting to discuss an issue at hand. Plus often bilaterals are planned 'after the standup', since we're all in, and in meeting mode at that point anyway.