The only value I've ever gotten out of standups is just being able to quickly hang out with coworkers I like. If the standups are online then they're pretty mu

The only value I've ever gotten out of standups is just being able to quickly hang out with coworkers I like. If the standups are online then they're pretty much worthless. If I were to lead a team and help develop the processes and methodologies we were going to use, I'd still have a form of standup but it wouldn't be the kind of standup typical to SCUM methodology or anything like that. My idea of a valuable standup would be for the team to get together for a short while in the morning to shoot the shit for 10 minutes at most. Nobody has to talk about their work, although it would be a good time for team leads to introduce intel about new or changing priorities. If team members want to talk about their work or challenges they are facing, then all the better. There would be no pressure to attend them all the time, or to be there on time. If people aren't showing up to them enough then that's a sign that they aren't valuable in the first place. Why treat standups like something out of public school? It just ends up turning standups into an exercise where students are coerced to attend even if no value is being provided. Such standups quickly turn into status updates and an exercise in subordination for many of the team members.