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If it’s obvious the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, then why is it table stakes for anything? At that point it’s just a personal safety choice, and I don’t car

If it’s obvious the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, then why is it table stakes for anything? At that point it’s just a personal safety choice, and I don’t care at all if others get it.

taylortbb 5y ago
There's space between "stops the spread" and "doesn't affect the spread" . Current vaccination levels are inadequate to stop the spread, but they do significantly reduce it.
pessimizer 5y ago
Vaccination isn't a ticket or an anointment, it's an injection that prepares your immune system to better fight the coronavirus. Saying that there's no need for it because it's not a complete solution is like selling your car because you still have to walk to get from your couch to your car.
- horns4lyfe 5y ago
  Sure, and that’s why I got it. That doesn’t explain why everyone is so hell-bent on forcing others to get it.
  - knowfilter 5y ago
    People are encouraged to get vaccinations to reduce the transmission of diseases
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ajuc 5y ago
If a parachute doesn't stop the fall why use it? Let's jump without.
- horns4lyfe 5y ago
  How does that address my point of getting the vaccine myself vs others getting it? Also, even if I was just talking about the value of getting the vaccine (which I wasn’t) that’s a terrible analogy. If you jump out of a plane without a parachute you’ll certainly die. As a healthy person, if I get covid I will almost certainly survive and recover quickly.
  - ajuc 5y ago
    It addresses the point that a measure doesn't need to be 100% effective to be worth using.
tasogare 5y ago
Because otherwise big pharma couldn't get richer and politicians pushing it wouldn't get their commission, which is more important than the lifes of catt...citizens. Political actions like forbidding hospital access to unvaccinated people in France showed long time ago that the purpose of vaccine mandates is not health related.
dTal 5y ago
Same reason it's illegal to not wear your seatbelt. Your "personal safety choice" becomes everyone's problem when you get hurt and take up a hospital bed.
dymk 5y ago
The point isn’t stopping the spread now, it’s preventing hospitals from filling up. Past that I see no reason to increase lockdown measures.
- syshum 5y ago
  Well good news, that was done a long time ago to the point now where the hospitals are soo empty we can just fire people for not following the mandates... I mean they would not fire nurses and doctors if they were critically needed would they?... Sarcasm aside... from most reports I see in the US, the hospitals are filling up with non-covid people that delayed treatments to mass fear around covid, now all of the other every day illness is catching up to people. good job we did there with the fear propaganda
veidr 5y ago
It doesn't stop the spread, but it decreases it. How the fuck are we even having this conversation in the end of 2021?!

If it’s obvious the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, then why is it table stakes for anything? At that point it’s just a personal safety choice, and I don’t care at all if others get it.

taylortbb 5y ago

There's space between "stops the spread" and "doesn't affect the spread" . Current vaccination levels are inadequate to stop the spread, but they do significantly reduce it.

pessimizer 5y ago

Vaccination isn't a ticket or an anointment, it's an injection that prepares your immune system to better fight the coronavirus. Saying that there's no need for it because it's not a complete solution is like selling your car because you still have to walk to get from your couch to your car.

horns4lyfe 5y ago
Sure, and that’s why I got it. That doesn’t explain why everyone is so hell-bent on forcing others to get it.
- knowfilter 5y ago
  People are encouraged to get vaccinations to reduce the transmission of diseases
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

ajuc 5y ago

If a parachute doesn't stop the fall why use it? Let's jump without.

horns4lyfe 5y ago
How does that address my point of getting the vaccine myself vs others getting it? Also, even if I was just talking about the value of getting the vaccine (which I wasn’t) that’s a terrible analogy. If you jump out of a plane without a parachute you’ll certainly die. As a healthy person, if I get covid I will almost certainly survive and recover quickly.
- ajuc 5y ago
  It addresses the point that a measure doesn't need to be 100% effective to be worth using.

tasogare 5y ago

Because otherwise big pharma couldn't get richer and politicians pushing it wouldn't get their commission, which is more important than the lifes of catt...citizens. Political actions like forbidding hospital access to unvaccinated people in France showed long time ago that the purpose of vaccine mandates is not health related.

dTal 5y ago

Same reason it's illegal to not wear your seatbelt. Your "personal safety choice" becomes everyone's problem when you get hurt and take up a hospital bed.

dymk 5y ago

The point isn’t stopping the spread now, it’s preventing hospitals from filling up. Past that I see no reason to increase lockdown measures.

syshum 5y ago
Well good news, that was done a long time ago to the point now where the hospitals are soo empty we can just fire people for not following the mandates... I mean they would not fire nurses and doctors if they were critically needed would they?... Sarcasm aside... from most reports I see in the US, the hospitals are filling up with non-covid people that delayed treatments to mass fear around covid, now all of the other every day illness is catching up to people. good job we did there with the fear propaganda

veidr 5y ago

It doesn't stop the spread, but it decreases it. How the fuck are we even having this conversation in the end of 2021?!