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I struggle to understand why people hate daily this hard What so bad about having to tell what you've been doing yesterday? one up to few sentences per person,

I struggle to understand why people hate daily this hard What so bad about having to tell what you've been doing yesterday? one up to few sentences per person, 10-15min max?

Clubber 5y ago
Do you have 15 minutes to talk about your vehicle's extended warranty? It's kinda like that except every day, and you can't hang up.
cube00 5y ago
It's bad when your management are considered part of your team and they challenge every sentence of your update: "can we expect that done by stand up tomorrow?" "will that be a problem?" "let's have a quick meeting to discuss in 45 minutes"
JKCalhoun 5y ago
For me it's just another straw on this camel's back: process that detracts from my productivity.
Dudeman112 5y ago
Programmers tend to be introverted and have some serious ego issues. Therefore any mandatory social interaction will be met with resistance, even if it's useful for knowledge sharing or for letting your boss know how things are progressing or if they have to change resource allocation. We can afford 5-10 minutes to chat. Most of us spend an order of magnitude more time dicking around per day (as we should, for it's intellectual work)
rimliu 5y ago
I hate doing stuff that I see no point in. Especially if it wastes time.
closeparen 5y ago
* Having something on your calendar that pulls you out of what you’re doing * In order to mostly stand there and listen to irrelevant or redundant information * So that when it’s your turn you can say something that the listeners don’t care about, that could have been a Slack message The first point can be slightly mitigated by placing the standup directly before or after lunch or another meeting, or at the beginning of the workday, so at least you were already going to have to put down your task.
bjornlouser 5y ago
in a few years someone will write "I don't know why you have a problem with our group calisthenics. Jumping jacks are good for you and I like that our managers care about our physical well-being. It's just like when they changed lights out to 9pm in the company dormitory. It does help me get a good night's sleep!"
thrower123 5y ago
If that's all you're doing, it's a huge waste of everyone's time and the company's money. Instead of 15-60 minutes of synchronous time, it could be replaced by an email that takes two minutes to write and 30 seconds to read.
darkstar999 5y ago
> What so bad about having to tell what you've been doing yesterday? What value does that provide anybody? Our tools can tell you what I've been working on. You can see the item I have in progress. If I'm blocked, I'm not waiting until tomorrow's standup. If I need to collaborate, I'll schedule a meeting or start a chat. If you need to know what I did yesterday, either you don't trust me, or you don't know how to use the tools we have to track these things.

I struggle to understand why people hate daily this hard What so bad about having to tell what you've been doing yesterday? one up to few sentences per person, 10-15min max?

Clubber 5y ago

Do you have 15 minutes to talk about your vehicle's extended warranty? It's kinda like that except every day, and you can't hang up.

cube00 5y ago

It's bad when your management are considered part of your team and they challenge every sentence of your update: "can we expect that done by stand up tomorrow?" "will that be a problem?" "let's have a quick meeting to discuss in 45 minutes"

JKCalhoun 5y ago

For me it's just another straw on this camel's back: process that detracts from my productivity.

Dudeman112 5y ago

Programmers tend to be introverted and have some serious ego issues. Therefore any mandatory social interaction will be met with resistance, even if it's useful for knowledge sharing or for letting your boss know how things are progressing or if they have to change resource allocation. We can afford 5-10 minutes to chat. Most of us spend an order of magnitude more time dicking around per day (as we should, for it's intellectual work)

rimliu 5y ago

I hate doing stuff that I see no point in. Especially if it wastes time.

closeparen 5y ago

* Having something on your calendar that pulls you out of what you’re doing * In order to mostly stand there and listen to irrelevant or redundant information * So that when it’s your turn you can say something that the listeners don’t care about, that could have been a Slack message The first point can be slightly mitigated by placing the standup directly before or after lunch or another meeting, or at the beginning of the workday, so at least you were already going to have to put down your task.

bjornlouser 5y ago

in a few years someone will write "I don't know why you have a problem with our group calisthenics. Jumping jacks are good for you and I like that our managers care about our physical well-being. It's just like when they changed lights out to 9pm in the company dormitory. It does help me get a good night's sleep!"

thrower123 5y ago

If that's all you're doing, it's a huge waste of everyone's time and the company's money. Instead of 15-60 minutes of synchronous time, it could be replaced by an email that takes two minutes to write and 30 seconds to read.

darkstar999 5y ago

> What so bad about having to tell what you've been doing yesterday? What value does that provide anybody? Our tools can tell you what I've been working on. You can see the item I have in progress. If I'm blocked, I'm not waiting until tomorrow's standup. If I need to collaborate, I'll schedule a meeting or start a chat. If you need to know what I did yesterday, either you don't trust me, or you don't know how to use the tools we have to track these things.