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The only people who say this are those who don't consider long covid. Which is a terrible outcome and seems to indiscriminately chose who to effect (in the pool

The only people who say this are those who don't consider long covid. Which is a terrible outcome and seems to indiscriminately chose who to effect (in the pool of non-hospitalized people) and not be rare at all (10-30%). It's misleading to transfix on the died:"recovered" dichotomy. Recovered just means "not dead, not testing positive". And there is a good chance that this virus is sowing the seeds of a massive wave of Parkinson's in the future. There is good evidence of some forms of Parkinsons having viral origin. COVID has mirrored most of the traits these suspect viruses have (gut, vagus nerve, lewy bodies)

thenewnormal 5y ago
>not be rare at all (10-30%) >this virus is sowing the seeds of a massive wave of Parkinson's in the future Do you have a source for any of this? On the face of it, this is outrageous fear-mongering.
- Workaccount2 5y ago
  Sure Long haul prevalence: https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/studies-show-long-haul-covid-19-afflicts-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-regardless-of-severity/2021/03 https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/studies-show... For Parkinson's just google "Parkinson's viral etiology" There are dozens of legitimate published studies. None focus specifically on COVID, because its so new and the timeframes so long. But there is a link between infection with serious viruses (including coronaviruses) and later neural degeneration.
  - thenewnormal 5y ago
    >None focus specifically on COVID All I needed to know. Thank you for editing your previous comment. Even so, saying there is a "good chance" is still a massive over-statement of what is currently known. The study on "long-haul" prevalence did not paint the same picture of a terrifying "Long Covid". The reported symptoms seemed quite mild - "fatigue and shortness of breath". Thanks to a combination of increased unhealthiness thanks to lockdowns, and the now endless cycles of diseases being passed around, that sound like my every day life. The published evidence around "Long Covid" certainly does not match the popular and widely-circulated (generally online) stories and dire admonitions.
    - Workaccount2 5y ago
      The Parkinsons link with COVID isn't far fetched https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201106/covid-19-linked-to-increased-risk-for-parkinsons https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201106/covid-19-linked-to-... Also fatigue and shortness of breath are about as "mild" as chronic back pain, i.e. you don't want it. It really isn't something people should dismiss in the same way you shouldn't dismiss moving a piano by yourself. You'll likely be fine, but if you tweak your back you'll live with a constant reminder that you should not have done that.
      - thenewnormal 5y ago
        It's been a year since that article, so I assume the "mounting evidence" didn't come to much. On the other hand, recent reports show some much more disturbing possible side effects: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/10/01/restless-anal-syndrome-affects-man-who-had-covid-19-coronavirus-infection/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/10/01/restless-an...

thenewnormal 5y ago

>not be rare at all (10-30%) >this virus is sowing the seeds of a massive wave of Parkinson's in the future Do you have a source for any of this? On the face of it, this is outrageous fear-mongering.

Workaccount2 5y ago
Sure Long haul prevalence: https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/studies-show-long-haul-covid-19-afflicts-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-regardless-of-severity/2021/03 https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/studies-show... For Parkinson's just google "Parkinson's viral etiology" There are dozens of legitimate published studies. None focus specifically on COVID, because its so new and the timeframes so long. But there is a link between infection with serious viruses (including coronaviruses) and later neural degeneration.
- thenewnormal 5y ago
  >None focus specifically on COVID All I needed to know. Thank you for editing your previous comment. Even so, saying there is a "good chance" is still a massive over-statement of what is currently known. The study on "long-haul" prevalence did not paint the same picture of a terrifying "Long Covid". The reported symptoms seemed quite mild - "fatigue and shortness of breath". Thanks to a combination of increased unhealthiness thanks to lockdowns, and the now endless cycles of diseases being passed around, that sound like my every day life. The published evidence around "Long Covid" certainly does not match the popular and widely-circulated (generally online) stories and dire admonitions.
  - Workaccount2 5y ago
    The Parkinsons link with COVID isn't far fetched https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201106/covid-19-linked-to-increased-risk-for-parkinsons https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201106/covid-19-linked-to-... Also fatigue and shortness of breath are about as "mild" as chronic back pain, i.e. you don't want it. It really isn't something people should dismiss in the same way you shouldn't dismiss moving a piano by yourself. You'll likely be fine, but if you tweak your back you'll live with a constant reminder that you should not have done that.
    - thenewnormal 5y ago
      It's been a year since that article, so I assume the "mounting evidence" didn't come to much. On the other hand, recent reports show some much more disturbing possible side effects: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/10/01/restless-anal-syndrome-affects-man-who-had-covid-19-coronavirus-infection/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/10/01/restless-an...