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For me, Hetzner, Starlink, and Tailscale are 2014-era startups: stellar products that turn you into a zealous militant for the companies. This is a very excitin

by erwan 5y ago

For me, Hetzner, Starlink, and Tailscale are 2014-era startups: stellar products that turn you into a zealous militant for the companies. This is a very exciting development. I am very much looking forward to their dedicated offering extending to the US.

st_goliath 5y ago
> For me, Hetzner .... are 2014-era startups Huh? I'm pretty sure the first time I heard of Hetzner was almost a decade before that. Wikipedia says they were founded in 1997. EDIT: Ok, I take it you mean they are like 2014-era startups? A quick Google search tells me, Starlink is the only one of them that could be dated to 2014. But IMO still a strange comparison. With their business model and history I wouldn't exactly call Hetzner a startup.
pantalaimon 5y ago
How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…
- atonse 5y ago
  I’d put myself in the camp of zealous Tailscale customers. I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard. Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us. Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about wireguard provisioning anymore.
  - nix23 5y ago
    >I’ve used wireguard for years Really for years?
    - atonse 5y ago
      Yes. For years. 2018 I think?
  - xuki 5y ago
    Same, I would invest in Tailscale if I could.
- School-Cotton 5y ago
  With tailscale you press one button and it magically works, no endless fucking around with OpenVPN config files. I have no business connection to them but am an extremely happy free tier user.
- fomine3 5y ago
  I don't call Tailscale "VPN Provider". Technically it's VPN but now "VPN Provider" means it provides "anonymous" "safe" internet connectivity.

by erwan 5y ago

st_goliath 5y ago

> For me, Hetzner .... are 2014-era startups Huh? I'm pretty sure the first time I heard of Hetzner was almost a decade before that. Wikipedia says they were founded in 1997. EDIT: Ok, I take it you mean they are like 2014-era startups? A quick Google search tells me, Starlink is the only one of them that could be dated to 2014. But IMO still a strange comparison. With their business model and history I wouldn't exactly call Hetzner a startup.

pantalaimon 5y ago

How is Tailscale, just another VPN provider, comparable to Hetzner and Starlink? I smell covert advertisement…

atonse 5y ago
I’d put myself in the camp of zealous Tailscale customers. I’ve used wireguard for years and Tailscale solved every single complaint I had about Wireguard. Their ACL management could use a lot of polish but moving to them and paying for the service was the easiest decision to make after how well it worked. And the product has worked flawlessly for us. Not a paid advertisement. Just someone who never ever thinks about wireguard provisioning anymore.
- nix23 5y ago
  >I’ve used wireguard for years Really for years?
  - atonse 5y ago
    Yes. For years. 2018 I think?
- xuki 5y ago
  Same, I would invest in Tailscale if I could.
School-Cotton 5y ago
With tailscale you press one button and it magically works, no endless fucking around with OpenVPN config files. I have no business connection to them but am an extremely happy free tier user.
fomine3 5y ago
I don't call Tailscale "VPN Provider". Technically it's VPN but now "VPN Provider" means it provides "anonymous" "safe" internet connectivity.