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I'm surprised to see no Clojure built on Go. Is there a technical reason why this wouldn't be a good idea?

by Zababa 5y ago

capableweb 5y ago
> - There's Joker (https://github.com/candid82/joker https://github.com/candid82/joker) with a similar mission to Babashka, but commonly used as a linter. Joker is a Clojure interpreter, mostly used as a linter in the community but can be used as a runtime as well.
- Zababa 5y ago
  By "built on Go" I meant like Java: you can use Go libraries and compile it as you would compile Go code, to a single binary.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    I see! "Built on X" would usually refer to what language something is built in, while what you're talking about is "interoperability" with the host language. But yeah, unfortunately Joker doesn't do interop, which is sad because it's one of the coolest features of the Clojure language.
dmurray 5y ago
Is this surprising? I don't see an ecosystem of languages targeting the Go runtime, in contrast to the JVM, Javascript, Erlang, MS CLR... I don't think this is necessarily a matter of popularity or maturity. I don't know of languages that compile to Python bytecode, either. In Python's case I suspect the VM is so optimized for Python that it makes an inflexible target for other languages: I don't know enough about this subject to say whether that's the case for Go as well.
- Zababa 5y ago
  > Is this surprising? I don't see an ecosystem of languages targeting the Go runtime, in contrast to the JVM, Javascript, Erlang, MS CLR... I think I'm surprised in general that no language targets the Go runtime. A ML built on Go could probably be popular, lots of people would like features from it. Not exactly bytecode but Hy https://github.com/hylang/hy https://github.com/hylang/hy is a dialect of Lisp that compiles to Python.
  - gilch 5y ago
    Hy actually compiles directly to Python AST, not to Python. For a Lisp that compiles to Python, see Hissp: https://github.com/gilch/hissp https://github.com/gilch/hissp

I'm surprised to see no Clojure built on Go. Is there a technical reason why this wouldn't be a good idea?

by Zababa 5y ago

I'm surprised to see no Clojure built on Go. Is there a technical reason why this wouldn't be a good idea?

> - There's Joker (https://github.com/candid82/joker https://github.com/candid82/joker) with a similar mission to Babashka, but commonly used as a linter. Joker is a Clojure interpreter, mostly used as a linter in the community but can be used as a runtime as well.

Zababa 5y ago
By "built on Go" I meant like Java: you can use Go libraries and compile it as you would compile Go code, to a single binary.
- capableweb 5y ago
  I see! "Built on X" would usually refer to what language something is built in, while what you're talking about is "interoperability" with the host language. But yeah, unfortunately Joker doesn't do interop, which is sad because it's one of the coolest features of the Clojure language.

dmurray 5y ago

Is this surprising? I don't see an ecosystem of languages targeting the Go runtime, in contrast to the JVM, Javascript, Erlang, MS CLR... I don't think this is necessarily a matter of popularity or maturity. I don't know of languages that compile to Python bytecode, either. In Python's case I suspect the VM is so optimized for Python that it makes an inflexible target for other languages: I don't know enough about this subject to say whether that's the case for Go as well.

Zababa 5y ago
> Is this surprising? I don't see an ecosystem of languages targeting the Go runtime, in contrast to the JVM, Javascript, Erlang, MS CLR... I think I'm surprised in general that no language targets the Go runtime. A ML built on Go could probably be popular, lots of people would like features from it. Not exactly bytecode but Hy https://github.com/hylang/hy https://github.com/hylang/hy is a dialect of Lisp that compiles to Python.
- gilch 5y ago
  Hy actually compiles directly to Python AST, not to Python. For a Lisp that compiles to Python, see Hissp: https://github.com/gilch/hissp https://github.com/gilch/hissp