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Damn. They don't teach these stuff here atleast not in a computer science curriculum. What degree did you learn? Iss this generally taught in all German enginee
by oikawa_tooru_ 5y ago
Damn. They don't teach these stuff here atleast not in a computer science curriculum. What degree did you learn? Iss this generally taught in all German engineering courses?
- mam4 5y agoGerman and french engineering school are pretty rough on math theory, for the better or the worse. Mostly because a lot of theory was born in these two countries.
- aneutron 5y agoCan confirm, before I was anywhere close to serious computer science, I basically did an undergraduate degree in mathematics / physics. And it goes through some very advanced subjects in both. It basically prepares you to be an engineer in whatever field you choose, be it a structural engineer, or a computer scientist.
- oikawa_tooru_ 5y agoCan you tell me the topics they teach you there?
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- ReleaseCandidat 5y agoHe is talking about math studies. Not much maths in engineering/CS in germany either. But nobody is holding you back from visiting 'real' math lectures ;)
- qayxc 5y ago> Not much maths in engineering/CS in germany either. That's simply not true. It depends entirely on the particular institution and its roots. There are two origins of CS in German universities: electrical engineering and maths. At universities where CS originated as a subfield of maths, undergrad CS education is very similar to a maths undergrad to the point that most of the tests/mid-terms are basically identical between CS and maths. If on the other hand CS came from the electrical engineering department, the focus is significantly less on maths and the lectures are very different indeed. So you'd have to look at the history of each university and where the CS department originated to find out.
- ReleaseCandidat 5y ago> There are two origins of CS in German universities: electrical engineering and maths. Ah, I see, thanks for the information. Which university would be an example for the latter?
- LeanderK 5y agoKarlsruhe Institute for Technology is an example. Analysis 1+2 and Linear Algebra 1+2 is compulsory for every CS student (the exams are practically identical, just missing a single topic. You can always switch to the math lectures and get a few ECTS more). This is a great background for more advanced, theoretical lectures (CS+Math) but it's lacking electrical engineering lectures and especially there's no electrical engineering practice.
- pvitz 5y agoSeriously, which German university (not "FH") doesn't teach analysis and linear algebra in the first terms? I am really wondering.
- freemint 5y agoTU Ilmenau has Analysis and Linear Algebra but that is only heard by mathematicians. There is a different class called "Math for engineers" which mechanics students, computer science students, ... hear which has different tests and a different focus but still teaches solving linear ODEs and stuff.
- red_trumpet 5y agoI think also in Germany you have to study pure math to see this. Where I study you even can avoid this by never taking Algebra 1, which is not obligatory (though imo it should be standard. There you learn why polynomials of degree >=5 have no closed form solutions)
- Garlef 5y ago> What degree did you learn? Mathematics (I started a PhD but left academia in favour of starting a company). My focus was on category theory / algebra.
- conradludgate 5y agoSpeaking from personal experience, not all of us on HN have computer science degrees. I studied mathematics in the UK and can confirm I learnt a lot about fields and other forms of linear and abstract algebras