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The state of Gujarat in India prohibits the consumption of alcohol. A lot of its cities are considered to the safest for woman in India. While alcohol is availa

The state of Gujarat in India prohibits the consumption of alcohol. A lot of its cities are considered to the safest for woman in India. While alcohol is available illegally, its consumption is still frowned upon. This relative safety is sometimes correlated with Gujarat being a dry state. I tried to search for any studies but could not find any so it may just be a coincidence. I have lived in Gujarat and the night life is very family friendly and usually involves lots of street food instead of bars and restaurants!

bongoman37 5y ago
The nearby state of Maharashtra has alcohol freely available and Mumbai is considered one of the safest cities for women in India as well. As someone who has lived in both places, I'd say Mumbai is overall better for women in many ways. Also, alcohol in Gujarat is very easily available illegally and the reason for its continued prohibition is largely that politicians derive a _lot_ of money from bootlegging. At this point, the nexus runs so deep that it would take some kind of a massive revolution to upset it.
vagrantJin 5y ago
> A lot of its cities are considered to the safest for woman in India I like how you phrased this as if it were a meaningful metric. Is "safe for women" more useful than safe for everybody including children? Do you have perhaps things relating to brawls, muggings, drunk driving arrests and accidents, drunk pedestrian road fatalities, suicide rates as determinants for a safe city? I'd think they're more reasonable than a vague metric as "safest for women"
potamic 5y ago
By what metric is Gujarat considered safe? It ranks as one of the worst states in India for human trafficking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_incidents_of_human_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_incid...
- metb 5y ago
  Are we using Wikipedia as a reliable source of hard metric data these days?
  - mschuster91 5y ago
    The article directly states in its first paragraph that the list originates from a government source: > This is a list of states and union territories of India ranked by incidents of human trafficking as of 2016, and is based on the number of convicted cases. The list is compiled from the '2016 Crime in India Report' published by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), Government of India.[1] Of course this kind of data has its own issues (e.g. incidents that don't end in a conviction because of bribery or police/judicial misconduct or that don't get caught by police at all don't end up in it), but it's probably the qualitatively best data you can get.

bongoman37 5y ago

The nearby state of Maharashtra has alcohol freely available and Mumbai is considered one of the safest cities for women in India as well. As someone who has lived in both places, I'd say Mumbai is overall better for women in many ways. Also, alcohol in Gujarat is very easily available illegally and the reason for its continued prohibition is largely that politicians derive a _lot_ of money from bootlegging. At this point, the nexus runs so deep that it would take some kind of a massive revolution to upset it.

vagrantJin 5y ago

> A lot of its cities are considered to the safest for woman in India I like how you phrased this as if it were a meaningful metric. Is "safe for women" more useful than safe for everybody including children? Do you have perhaps things relating to brawls, muggings, drunk driving arrests and accidents, drunk pedestrian road fatalities, suicide rates as determinants for a safe city? I'd think they're more reasonable than a vague metric as "safest for women"

potamic 5y ago

By what metric is Gujarat considered safe? It ranks as one of the worst states in India for human trafficking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_incidents_of_human_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_incid...

metb 5y ago
Are we using Wikipedia as a reliable source of hard metric data these days?
- mschuster91 5y ago
  The article directly states in its first paragraph that the list originates from a government source: > This is a list of states and union territories of India ranked by incidents of human trafficking as of 2016, and is based on the number of convicted cases. The list is compiled from the '2016 Crime in India Report' published by National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), Government of India.[1] Of course this kind of data has its own issues (e.g. incidents that don't end in a conviction because of bribery or police/judicial misconduct or that don't get caught by police at all don't end up in it), but it's probably the qualitatively best data you can get.