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This is published by a predatory publisher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversial_articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversial_articles)

This is published by a predatory publisher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversial_articles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversial_articles). According to homozygoat (https://www.twitch.tv/homozygoat https://www.twitch.tv/homozygoat), it doesn't use real virus (rather, it uses other cells transfected to express some covid proteins), and uses the wrong cell type for the conclusions they try to draw.

LurkingPenguin 5y ago
So we should ignore everything published by MDPI but take as gospel something stated by a PhD candidate in molecular biology who livestreams on Twitch under the name Homozygoat and has 329 followers there?
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- gfodor 5y ago
  It depends. If the content in question could possibly cast doubt that the vaccines are anything but 100% safe as drinking a glass of water, then we go with the twitch streamer, NYT journalists, randos on Twitter, etc. If the content in question supports the idea that the vaccines are a silver bullet and must be taken by everyone immediately or they should lose their job and be cast out of public life, then the study involved is now canon and we should label the former groups questioning this as peddling in disinformation.
modzu 5y ago
your first reference doesn't support your claim
- revolvingocelot 5y ago
  I think the grandparent comment meant to link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversies , which is the heading under which the erroneous link falls. More to the point that MDPI is a "predatory publisher", however, is this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Inclusion_in_Beall's_list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Inclusion_in_Beall's_list . The eagle-eyed might point out that Beall removed MDPI from his list of predatory publishers before canning the list entirely, but he singles out MDPI, suggesting that they "tried to be as annoying as possible to the university so that the officials would get so tired of the emails that they would silence me just to make them stop." I'm not sure we should be engaging so readily with this article.
pas 5y ago
Can you link to the actual video where homozygoat discusses this? (And a timestamp too please. Thanks!)

LurkingPenguin 5y ago

So we should ignore everything published by MDPI but take as gospel something stated by a PhD candidate in molecular biology who livestreams on Twitch under the name Homozygoat and has 329 followers there?

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gfodor 5y ago
It depends. If the content in question could possibly cast doubt that the vaccines are anything but 100% safe as drinking a glass of water, then we go with the twitch streamer, NYT journalists, randos on Twitter, etc. If the content in question supports the idea that the vaccines are a silver bullet and must be taken by everyone immediately or they should lose their job and be cast out of public life, then the study involved is now canon and we should label the former groups questioning this as peddling in disinformation.

modzu 5y ago

your first reference doesn't support your claim

revolvingocelot 5y ago
I think the grandparent comment meant to link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Controversies , which is the heading under which the erroneous link falls. More to the point that MDPI is a "predatory publisher", however, is this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Inclusion_in_Beall's_list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPI#Inclusion_in_Beall's_list . The eagle-eyed might point out that Beall removed MDPI from his list of predatory publishers before canning the list entirely, but he singles out MDPI, suggesting that they "tried to be as annoying as possible to the university so that the officials would get so tired of the emails that they would silence me just to make them stop." I'm not sure we should be engaging so readily with this article.

pas 5y ago

Can you link to the actual video where homozygoat discusses this? (And a timestamp too please. Thanks!)