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> I agree, but the mRNA vaccines factually aren't long lasting. Get your booster if you haven't yet, its important since the protection is about half in under h

> I agree, but the mRNA vaccines factually aren't long lasting. Get your booster if you haven't yet, its important since the protection is about half in under half a year. This is misinformation. From your link: > Vaccine effectiveness against hospital admissions for infections with the delta variant for all ages was high overall (93% [95% CI 84–96]) up to 6 months. A post regarding a possible "issue" with the vaccines is a strange place to engage in "get your booster!" fearmongering by highlighting VE against infection as compared to the far more important endpoints of hospitalization and death.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
"Up to" 6 months isn't long lasting, thats salesmen speak, and the average again was 53% after 4 months. >vaccine effectiveness against infections of the delta variant was high during the first month after full vaccination (93% [95% CI 85–97]) but declined to 53% [39–65] after 4 months. >Reduction in vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infections over time is probably primarily due to waning immunity with time rather than the delta variant escaping vaccine protection. Its why its important to get a booster shot. Most people who didn't get vaccinated also don't go to the hospital or die, so its not like that information is significant when the control isn't a black and white difference. People don't want to get infected in the first place so they don't get long covid.
- LurkingPenguin 5y ago
  I pointed out that the VE against hospitalization remains high (>90%) at 6 months and you continue to highlight VE against infection. These are not the same endpoints. > People don't want to get infected so they don't get long covid. Notwithstanding the fact there's some evidence the vaccines don't protect as well against long COVID as previously suggested[1], if this is the case and large numbers of people are eager to boost every 4-6 months out of fear they might get long COVID if they don't, you don't need to remind everyone to "get your booster!" We should be able to have discussions about the virus and vaccines without gratuitous PSAs. [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.26.21265508v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.26.21265508v...
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Sure, feel free to post the hospitalization rates of delta positive non vaccinated people. What is their delta hospital admissions in comparison? Lets compare those rates. Many people who got covid didn't go to the hospital, didn't die and were asymptomatic, so that statistic you posted is mostly noise. Most people who take the vaccine don't want to get covid at all.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

"Up to" 6 months isn't long lasting, thats salesmen speak, and the average again was 53% after 4 months. >vaccine effectiveness against infections of the delta variant was high during the first month after full vaccination (93% [95% CI 85–97]) but declined to 53% [39–65] after 4 months. >Reduction in vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infections over time is probably primarily due to waning immunity with time rather than the delta variant escaping vaccine protection. Its why its important to get a booster shot. Most people who didn't get vaccinated also don't go to the hospital or die, so its not like that information is significant when the control isn't a black and white difference. People don't want to get infected in the first place so they don't get long covid.

LurkingPenguin 5y ago
I pointed out that the VE against hospitalization remains high (>90%) at 6 months and you continue to highlight VE against infection. These are not the same endpoints. > People don't want to get infected so they don't get long covid. Notwithstanding the fact there's some evidence the vaccines don't protect as well against long COVID as previously suggested[1], if this is the case and large numbers of people are eager to boost every 4-6 months out of fear they might get long COVID if they don't, you don't need to remind everyone to "get your booster!" We should be able to have discussions about the virus and vaccines without gratuitous PSAs. [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.26.21265508v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.26.21265508v...
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Sure, feel free to post the hospitalization rates of delta positive non vaccinated people. What is their delta hospital admissions in comparison? Lets compare those rates. Many people who got covid didn't go to the hospital, didn't die and were asymptomatic, so that statistic you posted is mostly noise. Most people who take the vaccine don't want to get covid at all.