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You’re almost asking the impossible. Nutrition is an area with a lot of dogma, a lot of pre-existing bias, and plenty of conflicting evidence that supports almo

by mft_ 5y ago

You’re almost asking the impossible. Nutrition is an area with a lot of dogma, a lot of pre-existing bias, and plenty of conflicting evidence that supports almost anyone to cherrypick things to suit their agenda. This is why you can buy books which (seek to) prove almost opposite positions. The best single source I’ve found is nutritionfacts.org - this is their YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/c/NutritionfactsOrgMD https://youtube.com/c/NutritionfactsOrgMD Dr Greger isn’t perfect, and of course has his own plant-based agenda to push… but aside from maybe missing the pleasure of some foods, I can’t see that there’s anything to lose from a health perspective in following his advice… while there may be a large amount to gain. As others have said, a home-cooked plant-based diet is a very solid base to start from.

wolverine876 5y ago
> You’re almost asking the impossible. Nutrition is an area with a lot of dogma, a lot of pre-existing bias, and plenty of conflicting evidence that supports almost anyone to cherrypick things to suit their agenda. This is why you can buy books which (seek to) prove almost opposite positions. That's one reason I'm looking for a textbook or academic course. I am not interested in the political battles; I don't want this month's new book (and I certainly don't agree with the proposition (which the parent didn't say) that everything is politicized).
- ikr678 5y ago
  I dont think there are many 'canon' texts in this space, because of all the conflicting evidence and continual improved understanding of how diets impact health (eg gut ecology, inflammation are recent big research areas). Looking at a university level course list on nutrition and reading into each of the subject areas might be a start (Pick the ones that apply to you - nutrition in infants is perhaps not relevant). The Oxford Handbook of Nutrition is a good summary reference text. https://www.booktopia.com.au/oxford-handbook-of-nutrition-and-dietetics-joan-webster-gandy/book/9780198800132.html https://www.booktopia.com.au/oxford-handbook-of-nutrition-an...
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > The Oxford Handbook of Nutrition is a good summary reference text. Thank you!
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  But it's not political battles (well, there are but they aren't the only issue), it's that there is actual conflicting information in the studies. And there are past well regarded studies that have since become controversial. Or put another way: it seems there is a lot we do not understand about nutrition, we merely convinced ourselves we did.

by mft_ 5y ago

wolverine876 5y ago

> You’re almost asking the impossible. Nutrition is an area with a lot of dogma, a lot of pre-existing bias, and plenty of conflicting evidence that supports almost anyone to cherrypick things to suit their agenda. This is why you can buy books which (seek to) prove almost opposite positions. That's one reason I'm looking for a textbook or academic course. I am not interested in the political battles; I don't want this month's new book (and I certainly don't agree with the proposition (which the parent didn't say) that everything is politicized).

ikr678 5y ago
I dont think there are many 'canon' texts in this space, because of all the conflicting evidence and continual improved understanding of how diets impact health (eg gut ecology, inflammation are recent big research areas). Looking at a university level course list on nutrition and reading into each of the subject areas might be a start (Pick the ones that apply to you - nutrition in infants is perhaps not relevant). The Oxford Handbook of Nutrition is a good summary reference text. https://www.booktopia.com.au/oxford-handbook-of-nutrition-and-dietetics-joan-webster-gandy/book/9780198800132.html https://www.booktopia.com.au/oxford-handbook-of-nutrition-an...
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > The Oxford Handbook of Nutrition is a good summary reference text. Thank you!
xboxnolifes 5y ago
But it's not political battles (well, there are but they aren't the only issue), it's that there is actual conflicting information in the studies. And there are past well regarded studies that have since become controversial. Or put another way: it seems there is a lot we do not understand about nutrition, we merely convinced ourselves we did.