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Lol fuck English pronunciation. We don't have to sound like Californian Valley douchebags anymore. English is an international language. It no longer belongs t

Lol fuck English pronunciation. We don't have to sound like Californian Valley douchebags anymore. English is an international language. It no longer belongs to the oppressor. Don't sell out your culture. German accented English=sex.

crossroadsguy 5y ago
Wish people with other accents could say that. I have seen on multiple occasions, e.g., someone from France struggling to churn out a single fucking intelligible English word out of their mouth - “ooo, what a sexy accent!!” An Indian speaking impeccable English while being perfectly intelligible but with the distinct Indian accent - “ughh, you’ve a funny accent”. Behind the backs that ughh often becomes yikes.
fernandotakai 5y ago
agreed. i try to make my accent as neutral as possible, but at the same time, as long as people can understand me... why bother? if someone speaks my native language with an accent, i wouldn't give a single fuck, but for some reason, every english speak must have a Californian accent.
- loxias 5y ago
  > every english speak must have a Californian accent. No they don't! And don't trust anyone who says otherwise. If you want to improve your English for the ears of native speakers, it's vocabulary, vocabulary, vocabulary, grammar, and vocabulary.
ingvul 5y ago
Agree. At least in Europe we have, I believe, what I like to call "European English" accent: it's a mix of American English (because Hollywood + Netflix) plus British English (because that's was is taught in schools) plus your local accent (German, French, Spanish, Italian, etc.). We all understand each other very well (even when we make mistakes, because we usually make the same mistakes). It's funny because whenever a native English speaker joins the conversation, some of us may have trouble understanding him.
- chalcolithic 5y ago
  Pidgin:)
- medstrom 5y ago
  More than accent, in Europe you can hear odd word choices and sentence structure, because people internally translate from their native languages. "Take it careful when crossing the step" - what does this mean? You can also hear "that has sense" instead of "makes sense", or "looks a good idea" instead of "sounds like a good idea".
racl101 5y ago
With this site we can choose to sound like Irish douchebags instead if we want to. That's what I'd pick if I were the Brazilian OP and why? Just cause. Why not. It would be a funny idiosyncrasy for the Brazilian guy to sound Irish to the American co-workers for example.
- grozzle 5y ago
  Fun fact - Lenin, yes that Lenin, spoke English with a distinctly Irish accent, as he learned it in Dublin. I agree wholeheartedly with the above sentiments that the idea of "a correct pronunciation" is a toxic colonialist hangover. It's bad enough that we're losing diversity of languages around the world, let's not stamp down on diversity within the de facto world language that is replacing so many of them. Unique spins on world Englishes are the remaining traces of what was lost.
loxias 5y ago
As a native English speaker, I find the SoCal Valley accent to be actively repulsive. If someone learning our language is irrationally determined to remove their natural (and in many cases quite attractive) accent, there's so many better choices. The 100% neutral of the midwest, or the genteel and calming North Carolina. :) If I were to learn English as a second language, and wanted to pick an accent, the early 20th century "Mid-Atlantic" would be my choice. (and yes, I know it's entirely fake)
- chalcolithic 5y ago
  It all boils down to the availability of the learning material. Where can I find large body of midwestern audio (or video) if I'm outside the country?
gremloni 5y ago
There some accents that just sound better though. California, the south and definitely the British. West African English is pretty nice too. So is Jamaican patois.

crossroadsguy 5y ago

Wish people with other accents could say that. I have seen on multiple occasions, e.g., someone from France struggling to churn out a single fucking intelligible English word out of their mouth - “ooo, what a sexy accent!!” An Indian speaking impeccable English while being perfectly intelligible but with the distinct Indian accent - “ughh, you’ve a funny accent”. Behind the backs that ughh often becomes yikes.

fernandotakai 5y ago

agreed. i try to make my accent as neutral as possible, but at the same time, as long as people can understand me... why bother? if someone speaks my native language with an accent, i wouldn't give a single fuck, but for some reason, every english speak must have a Californian accent.

loxias 5y ago
> every english speak must have a Californian accent. No they don't! And don't trust anyone who says otherwise. If you want to improve your English for the ears of native speakers, it's vocabulary, vocabulary, vocabulary, grammar, and vocabulary.

ingvul 5y ago

Agree. At least in Europe we have, I believe, what I like to call "European English" accent: it's a mix of American English (because Hollywood + Netflix) plus British English (because that's was is taught in schools) plus your local accent (German, French, Spanish, Italian, etc.). We all understand each other very well (even when we make mistakes, because we usually make the same mistakes). It's funny because whenever a native English speaker joins the conversation, some of us may have trouble understanding him.

chalcolithic 5y ago
Pidgin:)
medstrom 5y ago
More than accent, in Europe you can hear odd word choices and sentence structure, because people internally translate from their native languages. "Take it careful when crossing the step" - what does this mean? You can also hear "that has sense" instead of "makes sense", or "looks a good idea" instead of "sounds like a good idea".

racl101 5y ago

With this site we can choose to sound like Irish douchebags instead if we want to. That's what I'd pick if I were the Brazilian OP and why? Just cause. Why not. It would be a funny idiosyncrasy for the Brazilian guy to sound Irish to the American co-workers for example.

grozzle 5y ago
Fun fact - Lenin, yes that Lenin, spoke English with a distinctly Irish accent, as he learned it in Dublin. I agree wholeheartedly with the above sentiments that the idea of "a correct pronunciation" is a toxic colonialist hangover. It's bad enough that we're losing diversity of languages around the world, let's not stamp down on diversity within the de facto world language that is replacing so many of them. Unique spins on world Englishes are the remaining traces of what was lost.

loxias 5y ago

As a native English speaker, I find the SoCal Valley accent to be actively repulsive. If someone learning our language is irrationally determined to remove their natural (and in many cases quite attractive) accent, there's so many better choices. The 100% neutral of the midwest, or the genteel and calming North Carolina. :) If I were to learn English as a second language, and wanted to pick an accent, the early 20th century "Mid-Atlantic" would be my choice. (and yes, I know it's entirely fake)

chalcolithic 5y ago
It all boils down to the availability of the learning material. Where can I find large body of midwestern audio (or video) if I'm outside the country?

gremloni 5y ago

There some accents that just sound better though. California, the south and definitely the British. West African English is pretty nice too. So is Jamaican patois.