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This is going to be like when I discovered I had aphantasia isn’t it. People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? I can sometimes have a train of thou

This is going to be like when I discovered I had aphantasia isn’t it. People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? I can sometimes have a train of thought that I could vocalise if I wanted to but I don’t actually hear it as a voice. Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too?

floatingatoll 5y ago
Yes, yes it is. Is your train of thought in the same order as the spoken/written words that it converts to?
- bengale 5y ago
  Sometimes but not always. I find that it is when I need to “convert” it into a set of steps or communicate it to someone else.
Jtsummers 5y ago
> Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Yes. I do, at least. Not always, but I can imagine music and "hear" it in my head. It's not as though it actually sounds like music (that is, it is perceptually distinct from actually hearing something, I'd never confuse an imagined with a real sound), but I can hear it. It was very useful when I actually played musical instruments, imagining how a piece would sound and then trying it later.
Signez 5y ago
All the time. To be fair, it can be (a little bit) annoying at times too: typically when you have an earworm you can't get rid of, and loops in your head until you actually listen to some other music.
haxiomic 5y ago
I've heard skilled artists can have aphantasia and my friend who has it gets very vivid dreams interestingly Do you find you're quicker to read and process things than others seem to be? Music definitely, it's been stronger at some points in my life, I can't do so easily these days but at one point I could hear and improvise music so clear it felt like everyone else would hear it too if you put an audio jack in my ear
- bengale 5y ago
  Yeah can be quicker to read and comprehend. I also find I’m quite good at abstract thinking which from what I’ve read is fairly common for people with aphantasia.
dylan604 5y ago
I hate when I hear "random" noises, but my brain tries to hear a rhythm or pattern to the point it stops doing what I feel it should be doing. I imagine what the guys that create music from gadgets like printers, steam irons, etc. [0] must go through daily. Every little noise sounds like a note/chord that they then are reminded of a song. I'm guessing it gets old/annoying after awhile. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7eI1-rMkQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7eI1-rMkQI
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darrenf 5y ago
> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Yep, and pretty much constantly. Mostly my own, but if I think about someone else speaking - like, say, recalling a conversation or even something from TV/film/radio - then I hear the voice of the original speaker. My own voice, especially during a period of mental ill-health, gets so fast and/or loud that it can drown out everything else. I've been to gigs while depressed and literally "not heard" entire songs because I was too busy inside. > Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Can't speak for "all", but definitely for me. Music comes and goes throughout the day; if I choose (or otherwise have cause) to think of a song, I can hear it clear as day. I can be rickrolled just by seeing a line from the song. Visually I am considerably more blank, however. I can recall things like walking/driving routes, views/vistas, the order of shops on a street, the layout of an airport terminal, etc etc - but I can't legitimately claim to be able to see these things in my mind's eye. They're just somehow there. But it's only a past tense thing - I can't do any active visual thinking about things that don't exist. Ask me to think of an apple and I'll recall one, not conjure one up. But ask me to imagine what a room would look like painted a different colour and I absolutely cannot - even with a swatch of paint already on one wall.
shime 5y ago
> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Yes. It's my voice, unless it's something written by a person whose voice I'm familiar with. > Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? I can hear music sometimes. Especially just a moment before waking up.
alok-g 5y ago
>> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Just to be clear, I do not hear my own voice in the way I would if I am listening to a recording with my voice. There is just a continuous train of thoughts, in one of the languages I know well, coming as if it has bypassed the ears and came directly to my attention or conscious access. I clearly know that it's not coming via the ears. >> Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Yes. Just in the same way as the above. There have been times when lyrics of a song played back in my mind where I had no a priori awareness that I even remember those lyrics.

floatingatoll 5y ago

Yes, yes it is. Is your train of thought in the same order as the spoken/written words that it converts to?

bengale 5y ago
Sometimes but not always. I find that it is when I need to “convert” it into a set of steps or communicate it to someone else.

Jtsummers 5y ago

> Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Yes. I do, at least. Not always, but I can imagine music and "hear" it in my head. It's not as though it actually sounds like music (that is, it is perceptually distinct from actually hearing something, I'd never confuse an imagined with a real sound), but I can hear it. It was very useful when I actually played musical instruments, imagining how a piece would sound and then trying it later.

Signez 5y ago

All the time. To be fair, it can be (a little bit) annoying at times too: typically when you have an earworm you can't get rid of, and loops in your head until you actually listen to some other music.

haxiomic 5y ago

I've heard skilled artists can have aphantasia and my friend who has it gets very vivid dreams interestingly Do you find you're quicker to read and process things than others seem to be? Music definitely, it's been stronger at some points in my life, I can't do so easily these days but at one point I could hear and improvise music so clear it felt like everyone else would hear it too if you put an audio jack in my ear

bengale 5y ago
Yeah can be quicker to read and comprehend. I also find I’m quite good at abstract thinking which from what I’ve read is fairly common for people with aphantasia.

dylan604 5y ago

I hate when I hear "random" noises, but my brain tries to hear a rhythm or pattern to the point it stops doing what I feel it should be doing. I imagine what the guys that create music from gadgets like printers, steam irons, etc. [0] must go through daily. Every little noise sounds like a note/chord that they then are reminded of a song. I'm guessing it gets old/annoying after awhile. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7eI1-rMkQI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7eI1-rMkQI

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darrenf 5y ago

> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Yep, and pretty much constantly. Mostly my own, but if I think about someone else speaking - like, say, recalling a conversation or even something from TV/film/radio - then I hear the voice of the original speaker. My own voice, especially during a period of mental ill-health, gets so fast and/or loud that it can drown out everything else. I've been to gigs while depressed and literally "not heard" entire songs because I was too busy inside. > Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Can't speak for "all", but definitely for me. Music comes and goes throughout the day; if I choose (or otherwise have cause) to think of a song, I can hear it clear as day. I can be rickrolled just by seeing a line from the song. Visually I am considerably more blank, however. I can recall things like walking/driving routes, views/vistas, the order of shops on a street, the layout of an airport terminal, etc etc - but I can't legitimately claim to be able to see these things in my mind's eye. They're just somehow there. But it's only a past tense thing - I can't do any active visual thinking about things that don't exist. Ask me to think of an apple and I'll recall one, not conjure one up. But ask me to imagine what a room would look like painted a different colour and I absolutely cannot - even with a swatch of paint already on one wall.

shime 5y ago

> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Yes. It's my voice, unless it's something written by a person whose voice I'm familiar with. > Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? I can hear music sometimes. Especially just a moment before waking up.

alok-g 5y ago

>> People are hearing actual voices inside their heads? Just to be clear, I do not hear my own voice in the way I would if I am listening to a recording with my voice. There is just a continuous train of thoughts, in one of the languages I know well, coming as if it has bypassed the ears and came directly to my attention or conscious access. I clearly know that it's not coming via the ears. >> Can you all hear things like music and other sounds too? Yes. Just in the same way as the above. There have been times when lyrics of a song played back in my mind where I had no a priori awareness that I even remember those lyrics.