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I highly suggest you return them since the upkeep is very expensive. The repairs for screens is ridiculous, the batteries are horrible (the x220 has more longev

I highly suggest you return them since the upkeep is very expensive. The repairs for screens is ridiculous, the batteries are horrible (the x220 has more longevity since the bios is DRM free), the cards are on a whitelist (only approved ones allowed). It is so bad I have some that are in disrepair until I can find parts for them again. The x240 to x270 will have modern parts that are cheap, the batteries internal and external are under $30, the screen aren't almost/more than the price of the same laptop. The TN screens on the x230 may not break, but you won't be happy using them, and to modify it with modern parts needs an expensive $60 screen adapter, and you can't control the backlight. The x250 is the best since there is no wifi whitelist, unofficial screens are fine in linux, the trackpad is good by default, and the battery market is so good sometimes they give you 2 6 cells instead of one, whereas the x230 ones are now going for $80.

amatecha 5y ago
Ah yeah, luckily the X230T I will mostly only use plugged in. I do agree, the energy efficiency (and battery cost) is one criticism of mine. That said, I'm not too worried about WLAN allowlist since I can supposedly remove that with 1vyrain (same with battery allowlist), if I even cared about it. Same with displays, the TN in the X230 is pretty sub-par but totally fine for me. Yeah, for now stuff is pretty easily available here, but I wonder how long that will last. Lots of people selling these machines for parts, so I can totally hoard some extra stuff if I want to... haha
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  With the cheaper batteries it’s still only an ok usage if you already have it. Official batteries will cost the same as the unofficial ones for these older devices and the screens remain expensive, and there aren’t any good IPS ones. If you don’t care about it being used as a laptop you can replace them with screens that are larger in size, but it won’t close properly anymore. I personally never looked back since the x250 was better in every way, the default screen is IPS.

amatecha 5y ago

Ah yeah, luckily the X230T I will mostly only use plugged in. I do agree, the energy efficiency (and battery cost) is one criticism of mine. That said, I'm not too worried about WLAN allowlist since I can supposedly remove that with 1vyrain (same with battery allowlist), if I even cared about it. Same with displays, the TN in the X230 is pretty sub-par but totally fine for me. Yeah, for now stuff is pretty easily available here, but I wonder how long that will last. Lots of people selling these machines for parts, so I can totally hoard some extra stuff if I want to... haha

GhettoComputers 5y ago
With the cheaper batteries it’s still only an ok usage if you already have it. Official batteries will cost the same as the unofficial ones for these older devices and the screens remain expensive, and there aren’t any good IPS ones. If you don’t care about it being used as a laptop you can replace them with screens that are larger in size, but it won’t close properly anymore. I personally never looked back since the x250 was better in every way, the default screen is IPS.