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Closed source with MS tracking and spying from the network logs. There seems to be an army of MS fanbois that angrily downvote any comments critical of crappy M

Closed source with MS tracking and spying from the network logs. There seems to be an army of MS fanbois that angrily downvote any comments critical of crappy MS products in the thread.

_fat_santa 5y ago
I freaking love the new Edge browser, but I only use it on my work machine where I could care less about spying and tracking. I really hope that MS will open source the edge browser at some point. I would love a "Edgium" or "UnMicrosofted" version of Edge that I can use on personal machines. Vertical tabs are awesome.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Probably not as good but https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oicakdoenlelpjnkoljnaakdofplkgnd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oic... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimolldggofidcmfdkcffpjcgaggoaf https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimo...
  - bloblaw 5y ago
    Sadly, they aren't even close to what Edge offers. My main browser is Firefox with Sidebery. That's what Chrome should copy. Edge's vertical tabs are the next best thing...especially when you need a chromium based browser. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
    - mdekkers 5y ago
      Thanks! I’ve been using tree style tabs forever, but sidebery looks nice, I’ll give it a try!
- marcodiego 5y ago
  That probably will not happen. Edge is not open source.
- darksfall 5y ago
  I feel this is necessary here: https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
bloblaw 5y ago
For me it's a trade-off between Google and Microsoft. Nobody would ever confuse me for a Microsoft fan-boy, but I personally feel more comfortable with sharing telemetry data (which both Google and Microsoft collect) with a software and services company than an advertising company. More than 80% of Google's revenue comes from advertising (source cited below). The majority of Microsoft's revenue comes from cloud services, Office, and Windows. But I understand Microsoft has a trust gap with many folks, based on their anti-OSS activity of the late 90's and early 00's, and I'm glad we are all free to choose. The only major browser (by market share) that is truly open-source is still Mozilla Firefox. source: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/18/how-does-google-make-money-advertising-business-breakdown-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/18/how-does-google-make-money-a... source: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/filing-shows-microsoft-really-making-money-reveals-m-adds-netflix-hulu-tencent-list-rivals/ https://www.geekwire.com/2020/filing-shows-microsoft-really-...
- eikenberry 5y ago
  Why not skip trading off completely and just use Firefox?
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Says whom? It also tracks you. https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html
    - chayleaf 5y ago
      it tracks you less, and the tracking can be disabled. You could always go for librewolf ungoogled chromium, maybe brave, or whatever else you desire
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        But still tracks and gives me a headache setting it up when I could use ungoogled chromium instead which with no effort doesn't track me. Why do you think Brave doesn't track you? Who or what told you that, and why do you believe it doesn't?

Closed source with MS tracking and spying from the network logs. There seems to be an army of MS fanbois that angrily downvote any comments critical of crappy MS products in the thread.

_fat_santa 5y ago

I freaking love the new Edge browser, but I only use it on my work machine where I could care less about spying and tracking. I really hope that MS will open source the edge browser at some point. I would love a "Edgium" or "UnMicrosofted" version of Edge that I can use on personal machines. Vertical tabs are awesome.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Probably not as good but https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oicakdoenlelpjnkoljnaakdofplkgnd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oic... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimolldggofidcmfdkcffpjcgaggoaf https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimo...
- bloblaw 5y ago
  Sadly, they aren't even close to what Edge offers. My main browser is Firefox with Sidebery. That's what Chrome should copy. Edge's vertical tabs are the next best thing...especially when you need a chromium based browser. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
  - mdekkers 5y ago
    Thanks! I’ve been using tree style tabs forever, but sidebery looks nice, I’ll give it a try!
marcodiego 5y ago
That probably will not happen. Edge is not open source.
darksfall 5y ago
I feel this is necessary here: https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw

bloblaw 5y ago

For me it's a trade-off between Google and Microsoft. Nobody would ever confuse me for a Microsoft fan-boy, but I personally feel more comfortable with sharing telemetry data (which both Google and Microsoft collect) with a software and services company than an advertising company. More than 80% of Google's revenue comes from advertising (source cited below). The majority of Microsoft's revenue comes from cloud services, Office, and Windows. But I understand Microsoft has a trust gap with many folks, based on their anti-OSS activity of the late 90's and early 00's, and I'm glad we are all free to choose. The only major browser (by market share) that is truly open-source is still Mozilla Firefox. source: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/18/how-does-google-make-money-advertising-business-breakdown-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/18/how-does-google-make-money-a... source: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/filing-shows-microsoft-really-making-money-reveals-m-adds-netflix-hulu-tencent-list-rivals/ https://www.geekwire.com/2020/filing-shows-microsoft-really-...

eikenberry 5y ago
Why not skip trading off completely and just use Firefox?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Says whom? It also tracks you. https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox.html
  - chayleaf 5y ago
    it tracks you less, and the tracking can be disabled. You could always go for librewolf ungoogled chromium, maybe brave, or whatever else you desire
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      But still tracks and gives me a headache setting it up when I could use ungoogled chromium instead which with no effort doesn't track me. Why do you think Brave doesn't track you? Who or what told you that, and why do you believe it doesn't?