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Yes because some people believe that kicking ass and taking names means that one can afford to be rude or antisocial because the mission takes priority. Utimate

Yes because some people believe that kicking ass and taking names means that one can afford to be rude or antisocial because the mission takes priority. Utimately these very same people sometimes do not take the time to listen to other around and spend time working on the wrong issues or going down rabbit holes because their vision is superior to those around them...with a group it is often more important for everyone to be rowing in roughly the same direction...even if its off, its better than people rowing in different directions.

peterangular 5y ago
People keep conflating my example with non-assigned work, ie: "spend time working on the wrong issues or going down rabbit holes because their vision is superior to those around them" Clearly this would be a problem, and I understand why people are conflating it with what I am describing because it is both related and relatable. But, I'm talking about doing your assigned work - maybe calling out the specific Postgres example is why everyone assumes it's just some jackass running off on their own... in the hypothetical I posited I did not mean this. I also did not mean to paint the hypothetical worker staying back at the office as rude/a jackass... Truly - there are many people who are only interested in keeping their nose down 100% focused on what work is assigned to them vs. the amorphous "culture fit" socializing. Hell - lots of them for fully rational reasons like social anxiety. Many people want to come to work to work, and then go home.
- Blackstone4 5y ago
  I dont really understand how your comments refute what I wrote...I am saying that the ability to communicate and get on with others (if you want to call it emotional intelligence) is important in helping people work together. Therefore being more effective as a team.
- SirSourdough 5y ago
  I think painting the contrast: "kick ass and take names" route vs. the "tread carefully and make sure everyone likes you" combined with the wrecking ball idea just paints a picture of someone who is grinding to get their work done but not worried about their relationships with or the collateral damage they cause for their coworkers. Reading your other comments I don't think it was your intent, just the way it came off to me at first blush.

peterangular 5y ago

People keep conflating my example with non-assigned work, ie: "spend time working on the wrong issues or going down rabbit holes because their vision is superior to those around them" Clearly this would be a problem, and I understand why people are conflating it with what I am describing because it is both related and relatable. But, I'm talking about doing your assigned work - maybe calling out the specific Postgres example is why everyone assumes it's just some jackass running off on their own... in the hypothetical I posited I did not mean this. I also did not mean to paint the hypothetical worker staying back at the office as rude/a jackass... Truly - there are many people who are only interested in keeping their nose down 100% focused on what work is assigned to them vs. the amorphous "culture fit" socializing. Hell - lots of them for fully rational reasons like social anxiety. Many people want to come to work to work, and then go home.

Blackstone4 5y ago
I dont really understand how your comments refute what I wrote...I am saying that the ability to communicate and get on with others (if you want to call it emotional intelligence) is important in helping people work together. Therefore being more effective as a team.
SirSourdough 5y ago
I think painting the contrast: "kick ass and take names" route vs. the "tread carefully and make sure everyone likes you" combined with the wrecking ball idea just paints a picture of someone who is grinding to get their work done but not worried about their relationships with or the collateral damage they cause for their coworkers. Reading your other comments I don't think it was your intent, just the way it came off to me at first blush.