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I agree with your point, but I think it slightly misses the potential and (I believe) intent of Framework: they have opened their design specs and encouraged ev

I agree with your point, but I think it slightly misses the potential and (I believe) intent of Framework: they have opened their design specs and encouraged even DIY participants, making it possible for a cultural movement of innovation & right-to-repair to exist. It reminds me of revered machines like the Commodore 64 that didn't just create hardware (although they did that very well)--they enabled social clubs, the demoscene, and a many hobby programmers and hardware hackers who went on to become professionals.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Opening them doesn’t mean it’ll be taken up. Everyone had a commandore so there was enthusiasm for it. This is another generic very niche laptop that has no defining benefits over others and so will find it hard to convince anyone to make some niche parts that doesn’t have a large install base.
- throwaway946513 5y ago
  "Very niche laptop" It's largely a laptop aimed at being a general computer, just like a Dell or HP. With two exceptions: - Freedom of choice over operating system - Freedom of choice over repair components From the looks of it, there doesn't appear to be much of a detriment to it over other laptops.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    The parts are niche, they don’t work anywhere else. Nobody will touch making niche parts for repairing one with a niche marketshare. You don't expect anyone to take up custom parts to a WilyFox phone even though its a much larger marketshare device do you? So why do you think they will for this laptop nobody has? Yes, it’s a general computer, nothing unique in computing to choose it over the other. Dell and HP have plenty of aftermarket parts and don’t limit my OS either. They start at $999 and the base is 8GB, 256GB SSD, with an i5 and you need to wait with a deposit and it only has 1 year of warranty with no strong aftermarket products. None of these are incentivizing for performance, for repairable, or for cost.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

Opening them doesn’t mean it’ll be taken up. Everyone had a commandore so there was enthusiasm for it. This is another generic very niche laptop that has no defining benefits over others and so will find it hard to convince anyone to make some niche parts that doesn’t have a large install base.

throwaway946513 5y ago
"Very niche laptop" It's largely a laptop aimed at being a general computer, just like a Dell or HP. With two exceptions: - Freedom of choice over operating system - Freedom of choice over repair components From the looks of it, there doesn't appear to be much of a detriment to it over other laptops.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  The parts are niche, they don’t work anywhere else. Nobody will touch making niche parts for repairing one with a niche marketshare. You don't expect anyone to take up custom parts to a WilyFox phone even though its a much larger marketshare device do you? So why do you think they will for this laptop nobody has? Yes, it’s a general computer, nothing unique in computing to choose it over the other. Dell and HP have plenty of aftermarket parts and don’t limit my OS either. They start at $999 and the base is 8GB, 256GB SSD, with an i5 and you need to wait with a deposit and it only has 1 year of warranty with no strong aftermarket products. None of these are incentivizing for performance, for repairable, or for cost.