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Non-Googler: What do all those words mean? Exactly. This wasn't too relatable, even though I have the GCP Certified Architect cert.

NikolaeVarius 5y ago
Why would internal tooling mean anything to you? And why would GCP knowledge be useful in any way? Its fairly simple to extract the gist of what these systems from the script.
jjtheblunt 5y ago
As an ex Apple person, i'd say it means there's way too much hierarchy at Google? not sure i'm reading it right though
- flatiron 5y ago
  we still had our processes though. Radar was my least favorite, but they replaced the ant eater app with one that was at least partially usable right before i left.
  - jjtheblunt 5y ago
    we'd say, about spoken mad scientist style requests, if it's not in radar, it never existed. :)
- q3k 5y ago
  IMO/IME it's the clash between tooling, systems and and processes designed for running long-term highly scalable and reliable services maintained by teams in multiple geographical locations and used by billions of people; and greenfield projects that just want to get things done at an early stage. Requiring multi-cluster/region, the quota/resource economy system, handling PCRs, code review, readability approval for complex configuration languages (and the existence of such complex languages in the first place) ... all of that makes sense in a vacuum and all were built to handle real problems and are likely written in the blood of a near-miss outage. But it also all comes crashing down on you when you're doing things from scratch for a relatively simple usecase that no-one really designed for.
dpryden 5y ago
I can't tell if this comment is implying that my comment is unclear, or if you're agreeing with the first line of my comment. In either case, though, it's an inside joke precisely because it's more relatable to those who are (or were) inside. In particular, I think it would be most funny to someone who was at Google about a decade ago; when I left Google in 2017 things had already changed enough that this didn't ring quite as true for new hires. That said, GCP is not very representative of what the internal platform looked like circa 2010. (Or even of what the internal platform looks like now, as far as I know.)
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- throw1234651234 5y ago
  I agree that as a non-Googler, I don't get the video, that is all. No negative connotation toward your comment.

NikolaeVarius 5y ago

Why would internal tooling mean anything to you? And why would GCP knowledge be useful in any way? Its fairly simple to extract the gist of what these systems from the script.

jjtheblunt 5y ago

As an ex Apple person, i'd say it means there's way too much hierarchy at Google? not sure i'm reading it right though

flatiron 5y ago
we still had our processes though. Radar was my least favorite, but they replaced the ant eater app with one that was at least partially usable right before i left.
- jjtheblunt 5y ago
  we'd say, about spoken mad scientist style requests, if it's not in radar, it never existed. :)
q3k 5y ago
IMO/IME it's the clash between tooling, systems and and processes designed for running long-term highly scalable and reliable services maintained by teams in multiple geographical locations and used by billions of people; and greenfield projects that just want to get things done at an early stage. Requiring multi-cluster/region, the quota/resource economy system, handling PCRs, code review, readability approval for complex configuration languages (and the existence of such complex languages in the first place) ... all of that makes sense in a vacuum and all were built to handle real problems and are likely written in the blood of a near-miss outage. But it also all comes crashing down on you when you're doing things from scratch for a relatively simple usecase that no-one really designed for.

dpryden 5y ago

I can't tell if this comment is implying that my comment is unclear, or if you're agreeing with the first line of my comment. In either case, though, it's an inside joke precisely because it's more relatable to those who are (or were) inside. In particular, I think it would be most funny to someone who was at Google about a decade ago; when I left Google in 2017 things had already changed enough that this didn't ring quite as true for new hires. That said, GCP is not very representative of what the internal platform looked like circa 2010. (Or even of what the internal platform looks like now, as far as I know.)

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throw1234651234 5y ago
I agree that as a non-Googler, I don't get the video, that is all. No negative connotation toward your comment.