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On the flip side, I've been using Manjaro for years without issue, but when I updated my Fedora 33 workstation to 34, KDE showed a black screen oh boot. No m

by cevn 5y ago

On the flip side, I've been using Manjaro for years without issue, but when I updated my Fedora 33 workstation to 34, KDE showed a black screen oh boot. No matter how hard I tried I was unable to solve this problem, so I will be skipping Fedora from now on..

prophesi 5y ago
Do you use an Nvidia GPU? I think nouveau had issues with KDE Plasma on Fedora 34. Though I believe you could still boot, it would just hang while logging in. I had to install nvidia's proprietary drivers to fix it, though eventually switched to Gnome and haven't had any issues.
- pizza234 5y ago
  Sadly, I couldn't make Nouveau work neither for recent cards (20x0) nor for old ones (7x0). I hated Nvidia; now I'm a happy AMD user :)
  - prophesi 5y ago
    Yep, I'll be making the switch to AMD once my machine could use an upgrade. :/ Props to the nouveau team, but AMD is so much more linux-friendly.
- cevn 5y ago
  It's an AMD GPU. Maybe I'll try updating it to 35 just for the hell of it, even though I'm sure it won't have an effect...
  - saltcured 5y ago
    As I recall, 34 is where there were some dracut bugs that caused booting to fail too. I don't think it even depended on AMD or not, but perhaps presence or absence of certain peripheral hardware. I had a working 34 system that suddenly wouldn't boot after a kernel update, while booting with an older kernel worked. But, this was because the older kernel was installed with an older dracut producing its initrd image. It took a while to sort out before it was finally stable again. During that broken period, a network install of 34 would produce the same result and there would not be an earlier boot entry to try instead. As I recall, one could rescue it with a rescue disk, downgrading dracut, and rebuilding the initrd. I've been using Fedora since around 2004 I think, and this was one of the rare few software-prevents-boot regressions I can remember (as opposed to me-breaks-config or hardware-fails). It was also an example where the default "quiet boot" obscured what was really going on, as a black screen hiding a bunch of boot activities getting stuck and timing out for many minutes.
ajusa 5y ago
Yup, folks have different experiences a lot of the time when it comes to distros. I'm not claiming Fedora is always more stable than Manjaro - just that it has been for me.
- cevn 5y ago
  I remember at the time of setting it up Fedora was the logical choice because they had some of the first support for AMD new graphics card (RX5700?). It was quite stable on my other computer and I recommended it for a while.

by cevn 5y ago

prophesi 5y ago

Do you use an Nvidia GPU? I think nouveau had issues with KDE Plasma on Fedora 34. Though I believe you could still boot, it would just hang while logging in. I had to install nvidia's proprietary drivers to fix it, though eventually switched to Gnome and haven't had any issues.

pizza234 5y ago
Sadly, I couldn't make Nouveau work neither for recent cards (20x0) nor for old ones (7x0). I hated Nvidia; now I'm a happy AMD user :)
- prophesi 5y ago
  Yep, I'll be making the switch to AMD once my machine could use an upgrade. :/ Props to the nouveau team, but AMD is so much more linux-friendly.
cevn 5y ago
It's an AMD GPU. Maybe I'll try updating it to 35 just for the hell of it, even though I'm sure it won't have an effect...
- saltcured 5y ago
  As I recall, 34 is where there were some dracut bugs that caused booting to fail too. I don't think it even depended on AMD or not, but perhaps presence or absence of certain peripheral hardware. I had a working 34 system that suddenly wouldn't boot after a kernel update, while booting with an older kernel worked. But, this was because the older kernel was installed with an older dracut producing its initrd image. It took a while to sort out before it was finally stable again. During that broken period, a network install of 34 would produce the same result and there would not be an earlier boot entry to try instead. As I recall, one could rescue it with a rescue disk, downgrading dracut, and rebuilding the initrd. I've been using Fedora since around 2004 I think, and this was one of the rare few software-prevents-boot regressions I can remember (as opposed to me-breaks-config or hardware-fails). It was also an example where the default "quiet boot" obscured what was really going on, as a black screen hiding a bunch of boot activities getting stuck and timing out for many minutes.

ajusa 5y ago

Yup, folks have different experiences a lot of the time when it comes to distros. I'm not claiming Fedora is always more stable than Manjaro - just that it has been for me.

cevn 5y ago
I remember at the time of setting it up Fedora was the logical choice because they had some of the first support for AMD new graphics card (RX5700?). It was quite stable on my other computer and I recommended it for a while.