> this sounds downright medieval to me, like why even use macOS for development if the software management tools are so bad that that's what you're doing Becau

> this sounds downright medieval to me, like why even use macOS for development if the software management tools are so bad that that's what you're doing Because it's only one tool that really sucks: Brew. For the languages I specified, it works quite well. Even using C++ with vendored dependencies works better than average in macOS for me. For most of those languages I mentioned, Brew already offloads the real installation and updating of the language itself to a language manager (via rvm/rbenv, nvm, pyenv, rustup, whatever), so it doesn't make a difference, except without Brew I get a more stable, officially supported, environment. Also, DotNet was a Cask until a few months ago, so they effectively were just downloading something from the official website just like me.