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All of which exist in plant based food too. Overeating is why people are obese, specifically overeating plant based foods. Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s

All of which exist in plant based food too. Overeating is why people are obese, specifically overeating plant based foods. Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar, derived from beets or sugar cane, both plants. I implore you to find me a person that is obese from eating nothing but meat, the same way you can find obese vegans. (It doesn't exist.) If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat.

JoeAltmaier 5y ago
Or corn! Don't forget corn! The US produces ~14B bushels of corn each year. That's about 1500lbs per man, woman and child. What did you do with your share of corn this year?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  I think most of it is used as feed or sold isn’t it?
  - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    Oh, mostly it's cracked into syrup, oil, protein, fibre, dextrose, starch etc. And those things are used in everything - paper, fabric, building materials, other animal feed, plastic... Corn won early and it won big, so everybody started figuring out what they could make with the cheap stuff. And it turns out, nearly everything.
- corpdronejuly 5y ago
  Fed it to a cow and ate the cow.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
    That must have been one massive burger!
lm28469 5y ago
> All of which exist in plant based food too. Yeah of course, that's why I think the modern take on vegetarianism/veganism is bs, every trend is corrupted by consumerism and the easiest way to make a profit is selling processed food (mostly byproducts of other industries) with a "vegan" sticker on it > specifically overeating plant based foods Can't find anything about that, any sources ? I can find dozen of studies linking meat over consumption to obesity and health issues in general, a few linking plant based diets to lower risk of getting overweight/obese but none linking vegetarianism to obesity. > Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar Oh don't worry, they also add sugar to meat based processed food, they add sugar to pretty much everything. Ah, and you're wrong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 > If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat. I doubt it, the average american already it 120+kg of meat a year... and it's strongly associated to all kind of health issues already. https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/ https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choic... https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/roundup/2020_0137/why_are_we_eating_so_much_meat.html https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/round...
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Adding sugar to meat doesn’t make meat the cause of obesity any more than shooting someone with COVID means COVID killed them. Neither of them are all meat diets, you just posted articles less that state incorrectly that that eating too much plants and adding meat is proof that meat are the only reason they’re obese and diabetic.

JoeAltmaier 5y ago

Or corn! Don't forget corn! The US produces ~14B bushels of corn each year. That's about 1500lbs per man, woman and child. What did you do with your share of corn this year?

GhettoComputers 5y ago
I think most of it is used as feed or sold isn’t it?
- JoeAltmaier 5y ago
  Oh, mostly it's cracked into syrup, oil, protein, fibre, dextrose, starch etc. And those things are used in everything - paper, fabric, building materials, other animal feed, plastic... Corn won early and it won big, so everybody started figuring out what they could make with the cheap stuff. And it turns out, nearly everything.
corpdronejuly 5y ago
Fed it to a cow and ate the cow.
- HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
  That must have been one massive burger!

lm28469 5y ago

> All of which exist in plant based food too. Yeah of course, that's why I think the modern take on vegetarianism/veganism is bs, every trend is corrupted by consumerism and the easiest way to make a profit is selling processed food (mostly byproducts of other industries) with a "vegan" sticker on it > specifically overeating plant based foods Can't find anything about that, any sources ? I can find dozen of studies linking meat over consumption to obesity and health issues in general, a few linking plant based diets to lower risk of getting overweight/obese but none linking vegetarianism to obesity. > Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar Oh don't worry, they also add sugar to meat based processed food, they add sugar to pretty much everything. Ah, and you're wrong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 > If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat. I doubt it, the average american already it 120+kg of meat a year... and it's strongly associated to all kind of health issues already. https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/ https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choic... https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/roundup/2020_0137/why_are_we_eating_so_much_meat.html https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/round...

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Adding sugar to meat doesn’t make meat the cause of obesity any more than shooting someone with COVID means COVID killed them. Neither of them are all meat diets, you just posted articles less that state incorrectly that that eating too much plants and adding meat is proof that meat are the only reason they’re obese and diabetic.