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> Firefox no longer warns you by default when you exit the browser or close a window using a menu, button, or three-key command. Why would anyone want this? On

> Firefox no longer warns you by default when you exit the browser or close a window using a menu, button, or three-key command. Why would anyone want this? On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Why would you not want to confirm that you actually want to close ALL your tabs?

garblegarble 5y ago
It still asks for confirmation on Command+Q - and provides a way to disable that behaviour if you're not prone to that typo
gnomewascool 5y ago
CMD + Q is a two-key command, so presumably the warning will still be present.
- sirodoht 5y ago
  I frequently press cmd+W to close the current tab. Unfortunately pressing one key to the left by mistake has happened too many times.
  - dawnerd 5y ago
    The Chrome solution to require you to hold quit down or press again is the ideal solution. Prevents accidental closures while also allowing pretty fast quits.
  - pohl 5y ago
    Typing in Dvorak really saves me here (the 'w' is down where the comma key is.)
- Anthony-G 5y ago
  Correct. According to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-configure-close-tab-warnings-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-configure-close-tab... > The only instance in which a close modal is on by default is for two-key quit shortcuts on macOS and Linux. The risk of accidental closure is higher in this context since the quit shortcut (⌘+Q) is adjacent to the switch-application shortcut (⌘+Tab). Also: > you will still have full control over the quit/close modal behavior. All warnings can be managed within Firefox Settings. I’m happy with this change. I regularly use Ctrl-Shift-W and Ctrl-Shift-Q – and never inadvertently – so I don’t need a confirmation prompt. I was – and still am – delighted when Firefox introduced the confirmation prompt for Ctrl-Q (which is too easy to hit instead of of Ctrl-W).
hoseja 5y ago
You can always recall recently closed tabs.
- Kwpolska 5y ago
  Unless they were in a Private Window.
sorenjan 5y ago
Why wouldn't you set the browser to save all tabs between sessions?
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  I like having the warning, period. Misclicks and accidental keystrokes happen. It is so much nicer to have the warning dialog than to have to restore the closed window. Restoring the window doesn't preserve the data on pages with infinite scroll and it is a crap-shoot on whether or not the progress of a video I was watching gets restored.
  - rasapetter 5y ago
    Then simply enable the warnings after you upgrade to 94.
    - BitwiseFool 5y ago
      This is going to sound glib, but based on Mozilla's track record I expect the setting for this to disappear within one or two releases.
- skykooler 5y ago
  For one thing, incognito windows aren't saved.
globular-toast 5y ago
I think it's because "restore tabs on startup" is also the default now. So you won't lose your tabs and this will generally do the right thing.
- swiley 5y ago
  There really needs to be an alternative "close all tabs now" command to replace this.
  - cute_boi 5y ago
    There is close all tab (under multiple tabs) if you right click on any tab. I don't know if there are any shortcuts.
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jwatt 5y ago
> On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Particularly if you use a Dvorak keyboard layout where "Q" is mapped to the key directly above CMD. I think I fat finger that at least every week or so. :D
apocalyptic0n3 5y ago
On the flip side, this has always been an infuriating default for me. If I hit CMD+Q, that means I want the program to quit. Not prompt me or make me hold it down or use a different command. CMD+Q = Quit on Mac. Overriding that behavior is annoying and one of the first things I disable on nearly every program I install.
- bogwog 5y ago
  Do you also use CMD+W to close tabs/modal windows? Because I do, and it's very easy to accidentally press Q instead of W. Losing dozens of tabs because of that is so damn infuriating that it ruins my entire day when it happens.
  - Taywee 5y ago
    When you do that, open your browser, and either hit the hamburger menu on the right and go to History or Alt and go to History, and then click "Restore Previous Session". It's not perfect (sites lose unsaved state usually), but I know that pain and it's not so bad when you know you can just recall all the tabs.
  - throwamon 5y ago
    Or worse, you just want to use literally any other shortcut (Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab/Ctrl+1/Ctrl+A).
  - apocalyptic0n3 5y ago
    Yes, I use CMD+W and CMD+# and CMD+A and CMD+~ and CMD+Tab all day long. I rarely (once every few months) miss and hit CMD+Q. I also have it set up so that my tabs restore on restart, which makes it a minor annoyance at best. I quit Firefox purposefully once or twice a day, so overriding the default Mac behavior is a much more significant pain for me.
  - BMorearty 5y ago
    I recommend having “Startup: Restore previous session” checked in your settings.
ranger_danger 5y ago
People complained about not having a warning message for years, and then they finally added it... and now they're taking it away again.
- Taywee 5y ago
  > however, if you prefer a bit of notice, you’ll still have full control over the quit/close modal behavior. All warnings can be managed within Firefox Settings. No worries!
ellipsis_12 5y ago
For now at least it's possible to disable the CMD+Q shortcut entirely by setting the option "browser.quitShortcut.disabled" to true in about:config. This disables the keyboard shortcut and makes it so that the only way to quit is to select the Quit option from the File menu which is hard to do by accident. Signed: a fellow Mac user who pressed CMD+Q by accident one too many times.
BMorearty 5y ago
Why is there so much argument among power users about a default setting that you can easily change?
perfectstorm 5y ago
just upgraded to Firefox 94 and they do warn for CMD + Q. Maybe they are talking about a three-key command that we are not aware of.
uzegonemad 5y ago
I override this at a system level for some apps (e.g. Firefox, VS Code) by taking the following steps: 1. Open System Prefs and go to Keyboard > Shortcuts 2. Select "App Shortcuts", then press the + Button 3. Choose "Firefox" (or other relevant app) from the dropdown 4. Type *exactly* the name of the menu option that has the CMD + Q shortcut next to it, in this case "Quit Firefox" 5. Focus on the Keyboard Shortuct input and choose whatever new key combination you want to be used for quitting the app. I usually use CTRL + CMD + SHIFT + Q 6. Press the Add button This video is older but also shows the general process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbEBipLxKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbEBipLxKA

garblegarble 5y ago

It still asks for confirmation on Command+Q - and provides a way to disable that behaviour if you're not prone to that typo

gnomewascool 5y ago

CMD + Q is a two-key command, so presumably the warning will still be present.

sirodoht 5y ago
I frequently press cmd+W to close the current tab. Unfortunately pressing one key to the left by mistake has happened too many times.
- dawnerd 5y ago
  The Chrome solution to require you to hold quit down or press again is the ideal solution. Prevents accidental closures while also allowing pretty fast quits.
- pohl 5y ago
  Typing in Dvorak really saves me here (the 'w' is down where the comma key is.)
Anthony-G 5y ago
Correct. According to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-configure-close-tab-warnings-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-configure-close-tab... > The only instance in which a close modal is on by default is for two-key quit shortcuts on macOS and Linux. The risk of accidental closure is higher in this context since the quit shortcut (⌘+Q) is adjacent to the switch-application shortcut (⌘+Tab). Also: > you will still have full control over the quit/close modal behavior. All warnings can be managed within Firefox Settings. I’m happy with this change. I regularly use Ctrl-Shift-W and Ctrl-Shift-Q – and never inadvertently – so I don’t need a confirmation prompt. I was – and still am – delighted when Firefox introduced the confirmation prompt for Ctrl-Q (which is too easy to hit instead of of Ctrl-W).

hoseja 5y ago

You can always recall recently closed tabs.

Kwpolska 5y ago
Unless they were in a Private Window.

sorenjan 5y ago

Why wouldn't you set the browser to save all tabs between sessions?

BitwiseFool 5y ago
I like having the warning, period. Misclicks and accidental keystrokes happen. It is so much nicer to have the warning dialog than to have to restore the closed window. Restoring the window doesn't preserve the data on pages with infinite scroll and it is a crap-shoot on whether or not the progress of a video I was watching gets restored.
- rasapetter 5y ago
  Then simply enable the warnings after you upgrade to 94.
  - BitwiseFool 5y ago
    This is going to sound glib, but based on Mozilla's track record I expect the setting for this to disappear within one or two releases.
skykooler 5y ago
For one thing, incognito windows aren't saved.

globular-toast 5y ago

I think it's because "restore tabs on startup" is also the default now. So you won't lose your tabs and this will generally do the right thing.

swiley 5y ago
There really needs to be an alternative "close all tabs now" command to replace this.
- cute_boi 5y ago
  There is close all tab (under multiple tabs) if you right click on any tab. I don't know if there are any shortcuts.

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jwatt 5y ago

> On macOS it is infuriantingly easy to press CMD + Q by accident. Particularly if you use a Dvorak keyboard layout where "Q" is mapped to the key directly above CMD. I think I fat finger that at least every week or so. :D

apocalyptic0n3 5y ago

On the flip side, this has always been an infuriating default for me. If I hit CMD+Q, that means I want the program to quit. Not prompt me or make me hold it down or use a different command. CMD+Q = Quit on Mac. Overriding that behavior is annoying and one of the first things I disable on nearly every program I install.

bogwog 5y ago
Do you also use CMD+W to close tabs/modal windows? Because I do, and it's very easy to accidentally press Q instead of W. Losing dozens of tabs because of that is so damn infuriating that it ruins my entire day when it happens.
- Taywee 5y ago
  When you do that, open your browser, and either hit the hamburger menu on the right and go to History or Alt and go to History, and then click "Restore Previous Session". It's not perfect (sites lose unsaved state usually), but I know that pain and it's not so bad when you know you can just recall all the tabs.
- throwamon 5y ago
  Or worse, you just want to use literally any other shortcut (Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab/Ctrl+1/Ctrl+A).
- apocalyptic0n3 5y ago
  Yes, I use CMD+W and CMD+# and CMD+A and CMD+~ and CMD+Tab all day long. I rarely (once every few months) miss and hit CMD+Q. I also have it set up so that my tabs restore on restart, which makes it a minor annoyance at best. I quit Firefox purposefully once or twice a day, so overriding the default Mac behavior is a much more significant pain for me.
- BMorearty 5y ago
  I recommend having “Startup: Restore previous session” checked in your settings.

ranger_danger 5y ago

People complained about not having a warning message for years, and then they finally added it... and now they're taking it away again.

Taywee 5y ago
> however, if you prefer a bit of notice, you’ll still have full control over the quit/close modal behavior. All warnings can be managed within Firefox Settings. No worries!

ellipsis_12 5y ago

For now at least it's possible to disable the CMD+Q shortcut entirely by setting the option "browser.quitShortcut.disabled" to true in about:config. This disables the keyboard shortcut and makes it so that the only way to quit is to select the Quit option from the File menu which is hard to do by accident. Signed: a fellow Mac user who pressed CMD+Q by accident one too many times.

BMorearty 5y ago

Why is there so much argument among power users about a default setting that you can easily change?

perfectstorm 5y ago

just upgraded to Firefox 94 and they do warn for CMD + Q. Maybe they are talking about a three-key command that we are not aware of.

uzegonemad 5y ago

I override this at a system level for some apps (e.g. Firefox, VS Code) by taking the following steps: 1. Open System Prefs and go to Keyboard > Shortcuts 2. Select "App Shortcuts", then press the + Button 3. Choose "Firefox" (or other relevant app) from the dropdown 4. Type *exactly* the name of the menu option that has the CMD + Q shortcut next to it, in this case "Quit Firefox" 5. Focus on the Keyboard Shortuct input and choose whatever new key combination you want to be used for quitting the app. I usually use CTRL + CMD + SHIFT + Q 6. Press the Add button This video is older but also shows the general process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbEBipLxKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWbEBipLxKA