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Almost all meat our ancestors ate was processed in some manner. Very rarely did they gnaw it directly off the bone immediately after the kill. It depends who y

by nkrisc 5y ago

Almost all meat our ancestors ate was processed in some manner. Very rarely did they gnaw it directly off the bone immediately after the kill. It depends who you ask, but humans have been processing and cooking meat for probably half a million years. Salted and preserved meats have been sound for a very long time as well. The processed foods we eat today are probably far higher quality than anything our ancestors ate. I can only assume “quality” here to refer the safety, cleanliness, and purity of the food. I don’t know what else it could mean.

lm28469 5y ago
If you think the smoked or salted meat of our ancestors is "processed" in a way that is similar to modern industrial food I think you should dig a bit more. > I don’t know what else it could mean. I guess thats the issue then. Preservatives, colorants, added sugars/salts, melting salts, texturants, fake cheeses, and all kind of additives, &c. Do you ever wonder why more and more people develop food related addictions and health issues ? Why half of the US is obese ? Why diabetes is skyrocketing ? https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2019/01/03/banned-foods https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2019/01/03/banned... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211014102038.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211014102038.h... https://thecounter.org/bpi-pink-slime-ground-beef-usda-reclassifed/ https://thecounter.org/bpi-pink-slime-ground-beef-usda-recla... https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318630#refined-carbs https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318630#refined-car...
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  All of which exist in plant based food too. Overeating is why people are obese, specifically overeating plant based foods. Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar, derived from beets or sugar cane, both plants. I implore you to find me a person that is obese from eating nothing but meat, the same way you can find obese vegans. (It doesn't exist.) If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat.
  - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    Or corn! Don't forget corn! The US produces ~14B bushels of corn each year. That's about 1500lbs per man, woman and child. What did you do with your share of corn this year?
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      I think most of it is used as feed or sold isn’t it?
      - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
        Oh, mostly it's cracked into syrup, oil, protein, fibre, dextrose, starch etc. And those things are used in everything - paper, fabric, building materials, other animal feed, plastic... Corn won early and it won big, so everybody started figuring out what they could make with the cheap stuff. And it turns out, nearly everything.
    - corpdronejuly 5y ago
      Fed it to a cow and ate the cow.
      - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
        That must have been one massive burger!
  - lm28469 5y ago
    > All of which exist in plant based food too. Yeah of course, that's why I think the modern take on vegetarianism/veganism is bs, every trend is corrupted by consumerism and the easiest way to make a profit is selling processed food (mostly byproducts of other industries) with a "vegan" sticker on it > specifically overeating plant based foods Can't find anything about that, any sources ? I can find dozen of studies linking meat over consumption to obesity and health issues in general, a few linking plant based diets to lower risk of getting overweight/obese but none linking vegetarianism to obesity. > Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar Oh don't worry, they also add sugar to meat based processed food, they add sugar to pretty much everything. Ah, and you're wrong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 > If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat. I doubt it, the average american already it 120+kg of meat a year... and it's strongly associated to all kind of health issues already. https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/ https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choic... https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/roundup/2020_0137/why_are_we_eating_so_much_meat.html https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/round...

by nkrisc 5y ago

lm28469 5y ago

If you think the smoked or salted meat of our ancestors is "processed" in a way that is similar to modern industrial food I think you should dig a bit more. > I don’t know what else it could mean. I guess thats the issue then. Preservatives, colorants, added sugars/salts, melting salts, texturants, fake cheeses, and all kind of additives, &c. Do you ever wonder why more and more people develop food related addictions and health issues ? Why half of the US is obese ? Why diabetes is skyrocketing ? https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2019/01/03/banned-foods https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2019/01/03/banned... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211014102038.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211014102038.h... https://thecounter.org/bpi-pink-slime-ground-beef-usda-reclassifed/ https://thecounter.org/bpi-pink-slime-ground-beef-usda-recla... https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318630#refined-carbs https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318630#refined-car...

GhettoComputers 5y ago
All of which exist in plant based food too. Overeating is why people are obese, specifically overeating plant based foods. Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar, derived from beets or sugar cane, both plants. I implore you to find me a person that is obese from eating nothing but meat, the same way you can find obese vegans. (It doesn't exist.) If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat.
- JoeAltmaier 5y ago
  Or corn! Don't forget corn! The US produces ~14B bushels of corn each year. That's about 1500lbs per man, woman and child. What did you do with your share of corn this year?
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    I think most of it is used as feed or sold isn’t it?
    - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
      Oh, mostly it's cracked into syrup, oil, protein, fibre, dextrose, starch etc. And those things are used in everything - paper, fabric, building materials, other animal feed, plastic... Corn won early and it won big, so everybody started figuring out what they could make with the cheap stuff. And it turns out, nearly everything.
  - corpdronejuly 5y ago
    Fed it to a cow and ate the cow.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
      That must have been one massive burger!
- lm28469 5y ago
  > All of which exist in plant based food too. Yeah of course, that's why I think the modern take on vegetarianism/veganism is bs, every trend is corrupted by consumerism and the easiest way to make a profit is selling processed food (mostly byproducts of other industries) with a "vegan" sticker on it > specifically overeating plant based foods Can't find anything about that, any sources ? I can find dozen of studies linking meat over consumption to obesity and health issues in general, a few linking plant based diets to lower risk of getting overweight/obese but none linking vegetarianism to obesity. > Diabetes isn’t caused by meat, it’s caused by sugar Oh don't worry, they also add sugar to meat based processed food, they add sugar to pretty much everything. Ah, and you're wrong: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14576980/ https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/95/3/752/4576709 > If you care about people's heath, surely you'll tell them to eat more meat. I doubt it, the average american already it 120+kg of meat a year... and it's strongly associated to all kind of health issues already. https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/ https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choic... https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/roundup/2020_0137/why_are_we_eating_so_much_meat.html https://www.diw.de/de/diw_01.c.741627.de/publikationen/round...