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There are some for whom the paid tier is "get rid of ads". YouTube, Spotify.

by dangoor 5y ago

njovin 5y ago
Even the Spotify paid tier has ads in podcasts. There's no escape.
- lovestory 5y ago
  That's not Spotify's fault. The ads are added by podcast host as a part of the show itself. You will have ads regardless of where you listen to your podcasts.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Aren’t those native ads though? Or is Spotify making money off them too?
  - tomerv 5y ago
    They are, and I think that Spotify should work to ban them. If I'm listening to a podcast on Spotify, then presumably the podcast creator is already getting my money (indirectly, via Spotify) and therefore I should get an ad-free version.
    - jdavis703 5y ago
      This gets to a question of what’s an ad. Take EDM DJs. Could they advertise an upcoming festival they’re playing at, even though the main purpose of the podcast is playing music?
      - efaref 5y ago
        > Could they *advertise* an upcoming festival Yeah, that's an ad. It's even in the sentence.
    - njovin 5y ago
      Spotify allows it, I've contacted their support team about it. They claim that as long as the creator is the one inserting the ads that they allow it.
  - deberon 5y ago
    It's a mix. As a premium spotify customer, I still see spotify-injected (skippable) ads.
    - charles_f 5y ago
      Never encountered these, what were you listening to?
    - jonnycomputer 5y ago
      Really? Not me. I've seen opportunities to subscribe to podcasts for $$, which irritated me, but that's it.
    - Cipater 5y ago
      This can't be right.
    - njovin 5y ago
      Same here. Spotify claims it's the podcast producers' doing when ads are inserted this way. It still miffs me. One of the conditions of being a paid content provider for Spotify should be that you provide an ad-free experience for premium subscribers.
      - deberon 5y ago
        Here's the relevant press release: https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-01-08/spotifys-head-of-global-ads-business-and-platform-jay-richman-talks-new-spotify-podcast-ads/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-01-08/spotifys-head-of-glo...
  - adrian_mrd 5y ago
    native ads - kind of sums up the ludicrousness of the adtech industry… “they are not real ads because they are NATIVE!”
- jefftk 5y ago
  YouTube as well, if you're counting creators taking money to promote things. (Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
- version_five 5y ago
  It also has constant ads for podcasts in the app, as well as modal popups for things it wants to promote, like new albums and concerts. They are definitely violating the spirit of "no ads"
dboreham 5y ago
Hulu has ads in the "no ads" service too.
- dangoor 5y ago
  That's obnoxious
patates 5y ago
In YT videos will still have "sponsored content" regardless. If they can't make YT display their ads, they will buy off the content creators. Ad industry is just so infectious.
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  SponsorBlock
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    It's a great solution, but it has a big limitation: you can't use it with the official YouTube apps for phones and TV's. You end up having to resort to 'hacked'/third-party clients like Vanced, with all the risks to your Google account that entails.
  - patates 5y ago
    It's also known that the extensions are also bought and start displaying ads, or worse, double charge the ad industry to let them escape their block (like once upon a time ABP did).
    - pushrax 5y ago
      That has happened before, but very rarely, and I highly doubt will ever happen to SponsorBlock.
      - JadeNB 5y ago
        > That has happened before, but very rarely, and I highly doubt will ever happen to SponsorBlock. Why do you doubt it? I've read that extension creators are constantly bombarded with offers to package just a little malware in their extension; surely the same is true of ads. If you're just a hobbyist developer—and that's where the best extensions come from—surely it's too much to expect that you'll resist that pressure forever.
        5y ago
tincholio 5y ago
I suspect that Spotify's ad strategy is to make them as obnoxious as possible, just to get you to buy the subscription. For me, the ads they played made it seem like their data science were either completely inept, or extremely evil.

There are some for whom the paid tier is "get rid of ads". YouTube, Spotify.

njovin 5y ago

Even the Spotify paid tier has ads in podcasts. There's no escape.

lovestory 5y ago
That's not Spotify's fault. The ads are added by podcast host as a part of the show itself. You will have ads regardless of where you listen to your podcasts.
jdavis703 5y ago
Aren’t those native ads though? Or is Spotify making money off them too?
- tomerv 5y ago
  They are, and I think that Spotify should work to ban them. If I'm listening to a podcast on Spotify, then presumably the podcast creator is already getting my money (indirectly, via Spotify) and therefore I should get an ad-free version.
  - jdavis703 5y ago
    This gets to a question of what’s an ad. Take EDM DJs. Could they advertise an upcoming festival they’re playing at, even though the main purpose of the podcast is playing music?
    - efaref 5y ago
      > Could they *advertise* an upcoming festival Yeah, that's an ad. It's even in the sentence.
  - njovin 5y ago
    Spotify allows it, I've contacted their support team about it. They claim that as long as the creator is the one inserting the ads that they allow it.
- deberon 5y ago
  It's a mix. As a premium spotify customer, I still see spotify-injected (skippable) ads.
  - charles_f 5y ago
    Never encountered these, what were you listening to?
  - jonnycomputer 5y ago
    Really? Not me. I've seen opportunities to subscribe to podcasts for $$, which irritated me, but that's it.
  - Cipater 5y ago
    This can't be right.
  - njovin 5y ago
    Same here. Spotify claims it's the podcast producers' doing when ads are inserted this way. It still miffs me. One of the conditions of being a paid content provider for Spotify should be that you provide an ad-free experience for premium subscribers.
    - deberon 5y ago
      Here's the relevant press release: https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-01-08/spotifys-head-of-global-ads-business-and-platform-jay-richman-talks-new-spotify-podcast-ads/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/2020-01-08/spotifys-head-of-glo...
- adrian_mrd 5y ago
  native ads - kind of sums up the ludicrousness of the adtech industry… “they are not real ads because they are NATIVE!”
jefftk 5y ago
YouTube as well, if you're counting creators taking money to promote things. (Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
version_five 5y ago
It also has constant ads for podcasts in the app, as well as modal popups for things it wants to promote, like new albums and concerts. They are definitely violating the spirit of "no ads"

dboreham 5y ago

Hulu has ads in the "no ads" service too.

dangoor 5y ago
That's obnoxious

patates 5y ago

In YT videos will still have "sponsored content" regardless. If they can't make YT display their ads, they will buy off the content creators. Ad industry is just so infectious.

dzhiurgis 5y ago
SponsorBlock
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  It's a great solution, but it has a big limitation: you can't use it with the official YouTube apps for phones and TV's. You end up having to resort to 'hacked'/third-party clients like Vanced, with all the risks to your Google account that entails.
- patates 5y ago
  It's also known that the extensions are also bought and start displaying ads, or worse, double charge the ad industry to let them escape their block (like once upon a time ABP did).
  - pushrax 5y ago
    That has happened before, but very rarely, and I highly doubt will ever happen to SponsorBlock.
    - JadeNB 5y ago
      > That has happened before, but very rarely, and I highly doubt will ever happen to SponsorBlock. Why do you doubt it? I've read that extension creators are constantly bombarded with offers to package just a little malware in their extension; surely the same is true of ads. If you're just a hobbyist developer—and that's where the best extensions come from—surely it's too much to expect that you'll resist that pressure forever.
      - 5y ago

tincholio 5y ago

I suspect that Spotify's ad strategy is to make them as obnoxious as possible, just to get you to buy the subscription. For me, the ads they played made it seem like their data science were either completely inept, or extremely evil.