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This is only on a web page shown after the meeting has ended, not part of the video software itself. I don't see what the big deal is.

godshatter 5y ago
One that already shows up in a browser a few minutes into the meeting, even though I used the native app to connect to it. I consider it an ad for the program I'm already using, which is just bonkers, so I close it reflexively. I'm using the paid version, but if I weren't I would still close it as soon as I see it, so the ad would be wasted on me.
nightowl_games 5y ago
I dont see how you could not see that Ads are consuming every facet of our lives.
expicli 5y ago
It matters because kids use this software. Who knows what will pop up
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  Protecting the kid against immoral or chocking things is a, IMO, not as important as not exposing them to constant brain washing from ads. If I have to chose between naked people and a coke ad, I'd rather have the kids see sex. Honestly, the former never had a negative impact on me, but the later really had.
  - vlunkr 5y ago
    This is the kind of absolutely unreasonable opinion that could only gain traction on the internet.
  - travisgriggs 5y ago
    What about a naked couple enjoying a coke after sex? Does that work?
    - gidorah 5y ago
      Tbh, better to have the Coke beforehand.
  - throwaway2331 5y ago
    Sex is one thing, but porn isn't sex. It's like comparing coffee and meth.
btbuildem 5y ago
For now.
- zippergz 5y ago
  Exactly. Once they get that first hit of sweet, sweet ad revenue, there will inevitably be pressure to grow it, and then grow it faster. Zoom does not strike me as the kind of company that will be able to resist the temptation to insert ever more obnoxious ads, as long as it leads to revenue growth. (That said, they don't have to support a free tier at all, and it's not free to run, so I don't completely begrudge them looking for ways to monetize it beyond just Pro upgrades).
- pornel 5y ago
  Unless it's an open-source/self-hosted application, you're always at mercy of code owners.
- kevinventullo 5y ago
  I’m imagining a future update that increases their ad revenue by 10% due to a bug that randomly ends calls prematurely, thus creating more ad views. Later on, a precocious junior engineer discovers the bug, but isn’t allowed to fix it due to the revenue hit.
hawski 5y ago
I imagine it will become a good malware vector.
- davidatbu 5y ago
  I don't understand how. It is an ad on a page in the browser. Don't many other companies (Google, Facebook, etc) manage to do that without becoming vectors for malware?
  - hawski 5y ago
    I think it is a bit different when it will be seen by employees as a part of internal tooling. After the meeting they see a banner "Important points from the presentation" or "The mandatory new tool to fight malware." or even "2021-11-sales.xls" and I guarantee people will click on it. Of course you can blame it on companies saving money for more or less sensible reasons by not paying for their tools and on uneducated employees, but it will happen.
    - davidatbu 5y ago
      Hmm. If you trust users to discern between malicious and non-malicious emails (that can contain things like "the mandatory new tool to fight malware" as you say), I think that implies you trust users to discern between malicious ads and non-malicious ads. And I don't see any reason that the spam/malicious-content filtering tools used to filter email would not be used to filter ads (with appropriate modifications of course). So this leaves me unconvinced that Zoom web ads are any more susceptible to being malware vectors as compared to ads anywhere else (or other tools that host user-generated/third party text, like email, messaging, and social media).
      - hawski 5y ago
        It doesn't have to be more suspectible. It is however one more thing to worry about.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
seaman1921 5y ago
FOR NOW
- jcun4128 5y ago
  Imagine about to do a meeting, 30 second commercial comes on about some restaurant, well let's go get food. Side note, at least now it's easy to make your own video setup, providers like Twilio/OpenTok, so... pay or set it up/pay yourself idk. I get it though, it's like YouTube vs. Vimeo... costs money to facilitate that magic that just works/have the audience.

godshatter 5y ago

One that already shows up in a browser a few minutes into the meeting, even though I used the native app to connect to it. I consider it an ad for the program I'm already using, which is just bonkers, so I close it reflexively. I'm using the paid version, but if I weren't I would still close it as soon as I see it, so the ad would be wasted on me.

nightowl_games 5y ago

I dont see how you could not see that Ads are consuming every facet of our lives.

expicli 5y ago

It matters because kids use this software. Who knows what will pop up

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
Protecting the kid against immoral or chocking things is a, IMO, not as important as not exposing them to constant brain washing from ads. If I have to chose between naked people and a coke ad, I'd rather have the kids see sex. Honestly, the former never had a negative impact on me, but the later really had.
- vlunkr 5y ago
  This is the kind of absolutely unreasonable opinion that could only gain traction on the internet.
- travisgriggs 5y ago
  What about a naked couple enjoying a coke after sex? Does that work?
  - gidorah 5y ago
    Tbh, better to have the Coke beforehand.
- throwaway2331 5y ago
  Sex is one thing, but porn isn't sex. It's like comparing coffee and meth.

btbuildem 5y ago

For now.

zippergz 5y ago
Exactly. Once they get that first hit of sweet, sweet ad revenue, there will inevitably be pressure to grow it, and then grow it faster. Zoom does not strike me as the kind of company that will be able to resist the temptation to insert ever more obnoxious ads, as long as it leads to revenue growth. (That said, they don't have to support a free tier at all, and it's not free to run, so I don't completely begrudge them looking for ways to monetize it beyond just Pro upgrades).
pornel 5y ago
Unless it's an open-source/self-hosted application, you're always at mercy of code owners.
kevinventullo 5y ago
I’m imagining a future update that increases their ad revenue by 10% due to a bug that randomly ends calls prematurely, thus creating more ad views. Later on, a precocious junior engineer discovers the bug, but isn’t allowed to fix it due to the revenue hit.

hawski 5y ago

I imagine it will become a good malware vector.

davidatbu 5y ago
I don't understand how. It is an ad on a page in the browser. Don't many other companies (Google, Facebook, etc) manage to do that without becoming vectors for malware?
- hawski 5y ago
  I think it is a bit different when it will be seen by employees as a part of internal tooling. After the meeting they see a banner "Important points from the presentation" or "The mandatory new tool to fight malware." or even "2021-11-sales.xls" and I guarantee people will click on it. Of course you can blame it on companies saving money for more or less sensible reasons by not paying for their tools and on uneducated employees, but it will happen.
  - davidatbu 5y ago
    Hmm. If you trust users to discern between malicious and non-malicious emails (that can contain things like "the mandatory new tool to fight malware" as you say), I think that implies you trust users to discern between malicious ads and non-malicious ads. And I don't see any reason that the spam/malicious-content filtering tools used to filter email would not be used to filter ads (with appropriate modifications of course). So this leaves me unconvinced that Zoom web ads are any more susceptible to being malware vectors as compared to ads anywhere else (or other tools that host user-generated/third party text, like email, messaging, and social media).
    - hawski 5y ago
      It doesn't have to be more suspectible. It is however one more thing to worry about.
- Nextgrid 5y ago

seaman1921 5y ago

FOR NOW

jcun4128 5y ago
Imagine about to do a meeting, 30 second commercial comes on about some restaurant, well let's go get food. Side note, at least now it's easy to make your own video setup, providers like Twilio/OpenTok, so... pay or set it up/pay yourself idk. I get it though, it's like YouTube vs. Vimeo... costs money to facilitate that magic that just works/have the audience.