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There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. Environmental concerns can be improved over time. It's a primary food type everywhere

by Grakel 5y ago

There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. Environmental concerns can be improved over time. It's a primary food type everywhere it can be gotten, and everywhere else is trying desperately to get more. Artificial meat will always be a minor alternative.

Toutouxc 5y ago
> no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to What if lab grown meat was significantly cheaper than animal-sourced meat? Because that could very well happen in the future, animal production isn't exactly cheap or effective.
jraph 5y ago
> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat Are you sure you see absolutely no reason to stop eating meat? You may need to read the parent comment again, a few are cited, including the "need to kill billions of animals every year" you didn't address. Whether those reasons are sufficient to stop eating meat is a separate matter. > we're not going to > Artificial meat will always be a minor alternative. I need a crystal ball, can you tell me where you got yours?
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Where’s your crystal ball that says artificial meat is a larger alternative or it’ll be 1:1? Most people are poor and can farm themselves instead of relying on corporations to feed them.
  - jraph 5y ago
    I have not stated that. That's the point: I have not attempted to take a guess at the future and stated this guess (or my wishes) as a hard fact.
lm28469 5y ago
> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. Most people in the west definitely eat too much and too low quality meat. In Germany it's pretty much the norm to eat two meat based meal a day, if not three. Meat in the US is an abomination, both in term of quality and amount consumed. No reason to stop eating meat altogether but plenty of reasons to start eating less of it I personally reduced my meat consumption by about 80% and mostly eat a vegetarian diet based on non processed food, I feel as good as ever, my performance in the gym didn't decrease, there is no reason to eat as much meat as we do really, it's purely cultural. I don't have anything against meat morally speaking, I still get a nice piece of it whenever I can when I'm eating out, I just cut the garbage quality meat (aka 80% of what's available in supermarkets)
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. I mean, sure, if you have absolutely no empathy towards the animals involved. Don't pretend like they all live idyllic cartoon-style pasture lifestyles and are only slaughtered painlessly after living a full and healthy life.
- Grakel 5y ago
  To live is to take. If you want to take as little as possible, that's understandable. Many people want to live as much as possible.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    You sound like the kind of person who'd gladly own slaves if they could get away with it. You'll forgive me if my ethical standards for myself require a somewhat higher bar than "got mine, fuck you".

by Grakel 5y ago

Toutouxc 5y ago

> no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to What if lab grown meat was significantly cheaper than animal-sourced meat? Because that could very well happen in the future, animal production isn't exactly cheap or effective.

jraph 5y ago

> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat Are you sure you see absolutely no reason to stop eating meat? You may need to read the parent comment again, a few are cited, including the "need to kill billions of animals every year" you didn't address. Whether those reasons are sufficient to stop eating meat is a separate matter. > we're not going to > Artificial meat will always be a minor alternative. I need a crystal ball, can you tell me where you got yours?

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Where’s your crystal ball that says artificial meat is a larger alternative or it’ll be 1:1? Most people are poor and can farm themselves instead of relying on corporations to feed them.
- jraph 5y ago
  I have not stated that. That's the point: I have not attempted to take a guess at the future and stated this guess (or my wishes) as a hard fact.

lm28469 5y ago

> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. Most people in the west definitely eat too much and too low quality meat. In Germany it's pretty much the norm to eat two meat based meal a day, if not three. Meat in the US is an abomination, both in term of quality and amount consumed. No reason to stop eating meat altogether but plenty of reasons to start eating less of it I personally reduced my meat consumption by about 80% and mostly eat a vegetarian diet based on non processed food, I feel as good as ever, my performance in the gym didn't decrease, there is no reason to eat as much meat as we do really, it's purely cultural. I don't have anything against meat morally speaking, I still get a nice piece of it whenever I can when I'm eating out, I just cut the garbage quality meat (aka 80% of what's available in supermarkets)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

> There's absolutely no reason to stop eating meat, and we're not going to. I mean, sure, if you have absolutely no empathy towards the animals involved. Don't pretend like they all live idyllic cartoon-style pasture lifestyles and are only slaughtered painlessly after living a full and healthy life.

Grakel 5y ago
To live is to take. If you want to take as little as possible, that's understandable. Many people want to live as much as possible.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  You sound like the kind of person who'd gladly own slaves if they could get away with it. You'll forgive me if my ethical standards for myself require a somewhat higher bar than "got mine, fuck you".