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Man, reading through this thread, I feel like such an odd man out. I'm enjoying Foundation. Sure, it's not amazingly intellectually stimulating, and it's not re

Man, reading through this thread, I feel like such an odd man out. I'm enjoying Foundation. Sure, it's not amazingly intellectually stimulating, and it's not really based on the books, but I find it fun to watch. As it's own thing, it's entertaining to me. I also really enjoyed The Flash (up until season 6 or so when it just got too repetitive). It seems like there's a lot of people that can't seem to enjoy things "just for the fun" that I don't get.

villasv 5y ago
I’m enjoying it like I enjoyed Black Mirror. Science fiction is very hard to worldbuild right, so often the science minded audience has to turn a blind eye to a few things and think in terms of metaphors. Humanity traveling faster than light? Check. Woman using stupid bras? Check. Radar that maps entire cave? Check. It doesn’t flag a creature 5m ahead? Check. For many, these details are unbearable plot holes. Watching science fiction require you to be able to skip these and focus on the story (girl in love, sucking at survival sim).
Mashimo 5y ago
It's my favorite series right now. Always waiting for the next episode.
layer8 5y ago
It’s not fun when there’s too much disbelief that needs suspending.
molsongolden 5y ago
I haven't watched Foundation yet but I felt this way about Altered Carbon.
542354234235 5y ago
>As it's own thing, it's entertaining to me...It seems like there's a lot of people that can't seem to enjoy things "just for the fun" that I don't get. That is the main issue for most people. If they wanted to do their own thing for a new show, it would have been fine. Maybe you check it out, maybe you don’t. Maybe you like it, maybe you don’t. But they didn’t do their own thing. They made an adaptation of an iconic sci-fi series by one of the most famous classic sci-fi writers. They sold a bag of goods that had “Asimov’s Foundation” printed on the bag. So it can’t be too surprising when people open the bag, find it is a sprinkle of “Foundation” and mostly “generic sci-fi” sawdust filler, that they feel tricked. Bait and switch comes to mind.
neurotrace 5y ago
I agree. I haven't read the original so I can't speak to the accuracy but it's a pretty good bit of sci-fi that I look forward to every week. I get the feeling that a lot of people have a lot of emotional attachment to the original and it's upsetting that it doesn't live up to their expectations. However, that doesn't mean that it isn't good.
ASalazarMX 5y ago
If the show was called "Empire" and hadn't been hyped as an adaptation, but as inspired by SciFi classics, I would have no trouble with it, even if it wasn't as compelling. I'd even be happy to find references here and there. Naming and marketing as Foundation is like pretending the I Robot movie was an honest adaptation of Asimov's I Robot. Foundation started well, but it's becoming a standard space opera template with Asimovian names. Asimov wasn't the greatest writer, but he had innovative ideas and central themes that should be the core of any adaptation.

villasv 5y ago

I’m enjoying it like I enjoyed Black Mirror. Science fiction is very hard to worldbuild right, so often the science minded audience has to turn a blind eye to a few things and think in terms of metaphors. Humanity traveling faster than light? Check. Woman using stupid bras? Check. Radar that maps entire cave? Check. It doesn’t flag a creature 5m ahead? Check. For many, these details are unbearable plot holes. Watching science fiction require you to be able to skip these and focus on the story (girl in love, sucking at survival sim).

Mashimo 5y ago

It's my favorite series right now. Always waiting for the next episode.

layer8 5y ago

It’s not fun when there’s too much disbelief that needs suspending.

molsongolden 5y ago

I haven't watched Foundation yet but I felt this way about Altered Carbon.

542354234235 5y ago

>As it's own thing, it's entertaining to me...It seems like there's a lot of people that can't seem to enjoy things "just for the fun" that I don't get. That is the main issue for most people. If they wanted to do their own thing for a new show, it would have been fine. Maybe you check it out, maybe you don’t. Maybe you like it, maybe you don’t. But they didn’t do their own thing. They made an adaptation of an iconic sci-fi series by one of the most famous classic sci-fi writers. They sold a bag of goods that had “Asimov’s Foundation” printed on the bag. So it can’t be too surprising when people open the bag, find it is a sprinkle of “Foundation” and mostly “generic sci-fi” sawdust filler, that they feel tricked. Bait and switch comes to mind.

neurotrace 5y ago

I agree. I haven't read the original so I can't speak to the accuracy but it's a pretty good bit of sci-fi that I look forward to every week. I get the feeling that a lot of people have a lot of emotional attachment to the original and it's upsetting that it doesn't live up to their expectations. However, that doesn't mean that it isn't good.

ASalazarMX 5y ago

If the show was called "Empire" and hadn't been hyped as an adaptation, but as inspired by SciFi classics, I would have no trouble with it, even if it wasn't as compelling. I'd even be happy to find references here and there. Naming and marketing as Foundation is like pretending the I Robot movie was an honest adaptation of Asimov's I Robot. Foundation started well, but it's becoming a standard space opera template with Asimovian names. Asimov wasn't the greatest writer, but he had innovative ideas and central themes that should be the core of any adaptation.