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I'm on the fence about this. On one hand this would be a new revenue stream (even if a small one). On the other hand, fuelling stations installing chargers migh

I'm on the fence about this. On one hand this would be a new revenue stream (even if a small one). On the other hand, fuelling stations installing chargers might be seen as cannibalizing their own market. I think there will be some time until we see those unfortunately. They will probably be the last to do it.

lamchob 5y ago
I Think esp. fuelling stations along high-ways will improve their charging infrastructure. A lot of their revenue is non-food stuff like coffee and snacks. And longer wait times during charging could lead to more revenue there.
wongarsu 5y ago
Electric charging stations might drive a lot of traffic for restaurants or shops integrated into the highway station due to the charging time.
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throwaway0a5e 5y ago
Gas stations don't make money on the gas (with some exceptions for stations with fairly captive customer bases or in prime locations). Gas is just a break even to get you in the door. Some % of gas customers get converted to convenience store customers and that's where all the money is made.
worrycue 5y ago
I doubt they will care whether they are selling energy to you in the form of gasoline or electricity, as long as they make a buck. It’s like saying telecoms won’t provide internet services because it might eat into SMS and phone call fees. So far that hasn’t been true - where I stay at least.
- oblio 5y ago
  > It’s like saying telecoms won’t provide internet services because it might eat into SMS and phone call fees. So far that hasn’t been true - where I stay at least. This has definitely happened, worldwide, and it's still happening. Crap mobile internet quotas, for example.
throw0101a 5y ago
> On the other hand, fuelling stations installing chargers might be seen as cannibalizing their own market. It's probably better to cannibalize your own market share than have the revenue go to a competitor.
mrobins 5y ago
That’ll turn out like Kodak inventing the digital camera and shoving it in a drawer.
jillesvangurp 5y ago
There's nothing to be on the fence about here; plenty of existing businesses that have already validated that they are getting a lot of use of their existing charging investments. For a petrol station. There's nothing to cannibalize. They can either watch all the EVs drive past to the next charging + pit stop opportunity or accommodate those customers and have them in their shops, rest rooms, restaurants, etc. Petrol isn't their core business in any case. Easy choice if you want the business. The rest is just economical Darwinism. Anyone driving a car for work is likely to be switching sooner rather than later; in some countries that process is already pretty far completed with e.g. leasing companies preferring evs for cost and other reasons. EV sales have hit double digit percentages in many countries and the number of countries where that is over 50% is also growing. So, easy choice for most petrol stations. More a question of when and how many than if for most of them.

lamchob 5y ago

I Think esp. fuelling stations along high-ways will improve their charging infrastructure. A lot of their revenue is non-food stuff like coffee and snacks. And longer wait times during charging could lead to more revenue there.

wongarsu 5y ago

Electric charging stations might drive a lot of traffic for restaurants or shops integrated into the highway station due to the charging time.

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throwaway0a5e 5y ago

Gas stations don't make money on the gas (with some exceptions for stations with fairly captive customer bases or in prime locations). Gas is just a break even to get you in the door. Some % of gas customers get converted to convenience store customers and that's where all the money is made.

worrycue 5y ago

I doubt they will care whether they are selling energy to you in the form of gasoline or electricity, as long as they make a buck. It’s like saying telecoms won’t provide internet services because it might eat into SMS and phone call fees. So far that hasn’t been true - where I stay at least.

oblio 5y ago
> It’s like saying telecoms won’t provide internet services because it might eat into SMS and phone call fees. So far that hasn’t been true - where I stay at least. This has definitely happened, worldwide, and it's still happening. Crap mobile internet quotas, for example.

throw0101a 5y ago

> On the other hand, fuelling stations installing chargers might be seen as cannibalizing their own market. It's probably better to cannibalize your own market share than have the revenue go to a competitor.

mrobins 5y ago

That’ll turn out like Kodak inventing the digital camera and shoving it in a drawer.

jillesvangurp 5y ago

There's nothing to be on the fence about here; plenty of existing businesses that have already validated that they are getting a lot of use of their existing charging investments. For a petrol station. There's nothing to cannibalize. They can either watch all the EVs drive past to the next charging + pit stop opportunity or accommodate those customers and have them in their shops, rest rooms, restaurants, etc. Petrol isn't their core business in any case. Easy choice if you want the business. The rest is just economical Darwinism. Anyone driving a car for work is likely to be switching sooner rather than later; in some countries that process is already pretty far completed with e.g. leasing companies preferring evs for cost and other reasons. EV sales have hit double digit percentages in many countries and the number of countries where that is over 50% is also growing. So, easy choice for most petrol stations. More a question of when and how many than if for most of them.