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I only read about the german minister of transport, Andreas Scheuer, was in talks to Tesla to open up the charging network. The source I have is here: https://

I only read about the german minister of transport, Andreas Scheuer, was in talks to Tesla to open up the charging network. The source I have is here: https://ecomento.de/2021/06/16/tesla-soll-supercharger-fuer-alle-elektroautos-freigeben-scheuer/ https://ecomento.de/2021/06/16/tesla-soll-supercharger-fuer-... So, I think the logic was: eventually it will happen anyway - so it's better for Tesla to do it themselves before they are forced to, so that they can do it on their own terms. For example, so that Tesla drivers will never have to wait longer than x minutes.

yreg 5y ago
I see. That's not "EU telling them they have to". That's a minister of an EU member state allegedly telling them he would like to force them to do it.
- hef19898 5y ago
  Still the acting Minister of Transportation in the biggest EU member state. That hair splitting is showing some lack of understanding how this stuff works. I think Tesla saw the writing on the wall in the EU, which is that the EU doesn't want closed eco-systems, including payment, for EV charging. Now you can do it when forced or leap-frog that and get some positive PR from it. Plus you might be able to do it on our own terms. I highly doubt Tesla would have done it yet without some pushing from the EU.
  - yreg 5y ago
    I'm sorry, but as a non-german european citizen I really do not consider an opinion of a german minister all that important. He has zero authority to order companies what they have to do or don't have to do in my country.
    - hef19898 5y ago
      Directly, no. Indirectly one cannot ignore the influence Germany has in the EU, so his word carries some weight, especially if you are a multi-national company operating in the EU. That being said, Andi Scheuer is quite an incompetent idiot.
    - foepys 5y ago
      It's not only the minister's opinion, it's Germany's opinion. As minister he is allowed to make deals in the name of Germany. Germany and France are the main financial contributors to the EU budget, so they are involved in pretty much all EU matters.
      - hef19898 5y ago
        >> As minister he is allowed to make deals in the name of Germany. That is very true. It also is part of the problem with that particular Minister, one of those deals cost Germany north of 500 million for nothing.
  - arlcode 5y ago
    Don't infrastructure subsidies in the member states usually require an open system as well?

yreg 5y ago

I see. That's not "EU telling them they have to". That's a minister of an EU member state allegedly telling them he would like to force them to do it.

hef19898 5y ago
Still the acting Minister of Transportation in the biggest EU member state. That hair splitting is showing some lack of understanding how this stuff works. I think Tesla saw the writing on the wall in the EU, which is that the EU doesn't want closed eco-systems, including payment, for EV charging. Now you can do it when forced or leap-frog that and get some positive PR from it. Plus you might be able to do it on our own terms. I highly doubt Tesla would have done it yet without some pushing from the EU.
- yreg 5y ago
  I'm sorry, but as a non-german european citizen I really do not consider an opinion of a german minister all that important. He has zero authority to order companies what they have to do or don't have to do in my country.
  - hef19898 5y ago
    Directly, no. Indirectly one cannot ignore the influence Germany has in the EU, so his word carries some weight, especially if you are a multi-national company operating in the EU. That being said, Andi Scheuer is quite an incompetent idiot.
  - foepys 5y ago
    It's not only the minister's opinion, it's Germany's opinion. As minister he is allowed to make deals in the name of Germany. Germany and France are the main financial contributors to the EU budget, so they are involved in pretty much all EU matters.
    - hef19898 5y ago
      >> As minister he is allowed to make deals in the name of Germany. That is very true. It also is part of the problem with that particular Minister, one of those deals cost Germany north of 500 million for nothing.
- arlcode 5y ago
  Don't infrastructure subsidies in the member states usually require an open system as well?