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Regarding plant based “meat” why are we trying to fool our selfs that we are eating meat. We've spent several thousand years optimizing our cultural history to

Regarding plant based “meat” why are we trying to fool our selfs that we are eating meat. We've spent several thousand years optimizing our cultural history to tell ourselves that well-prepared and cooked meat dishes are the peak of cuisine. To just throw that away and start over would require ignoring practically everything we believe about food. It could be done, but it would be difficult. It's very likely that there's even a genetic component - we've evolved to enjoy eating cooked meat. I wouldn't be at all surprised that we really do, at a provable scientific genetic level, prefer it to vegetables. People just like meat. If we can enjoy the experience without the moral and environmental side effects that's not a bad thing.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
Beef is literally just grass. Humans began herding grazing livestock because we can't eat grass. Given the amazing variety, quality, and price of foods available in the developed, globalized world, I cannot fathom why anyone would want to eat grass anymore. Maybe gut bacteria are mind controlling people to eat it, to their benefit at our expense. I've certainly noticed the craving effect, almost universally regardless of food, for the things I eat. Going from meat to vegan was challenging, but I'm better for it.
- bagels 5y ago
  Beef is not just literally grass. That's just unhelpful reductionism, and ignores that the properties are changed dramatically through energy inputs and chemical reactions. Grass is just dirt and CO2 and water after all. Dirt is just a bunch of atoms...
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
For a long time only the wealthy could eat meat regularly. And then progress happened and even people of modest means could afford that. And then the wealthy differentiated themselves by not eating meat. And pretty soon the unwashed masses are going to be able to do that too. So the techies and the doctors and the lawyers are going to have to find a different way to differentiate themselves.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

Beef is literally just grass. Humans began herding grazing livestock because we can't eat grass. Given the amazing variety, quality, and price of foods available in the developed, globalized world, I cannot fathom why anyone would want to eat grass anymore. Maybe gut bacteria are mind controlling people to eat it, to their benefit at our expense. I've certainly noticed the craving effect, almost universally regardless of food, for the things I eat. Going from meat to vegan was challenging, but I'm better for it.

bagels 5y ago
Beef is not just literally grass. That's just unhelpful reductionism, and ignores that the properties are changed dramatically through energy inputs and chemical reactions. Grass is just dirt and CO2 and water after all. Dirt is just a bunch of atoms...

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

For a long time only the wealthy could eat meat regularly. And then progress happened and even people of modest means could afford that. And then the wealthy differentiated themselves by not eating meat. And pretty soon the unwashed masses are going to be able to do that too. So the techies and the doctors and the lawyers are going to have to find a different way to differentiate themselves.