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… if you already have a master’s degree, which takes 2 years. In the US many 5-6 year PhD programs do not require—and in fact include—a master’s degree.

by evanb 5y ago

bombadilo 5y ago
A masters is typically one year full time, two years part time.
- trenchgun 5y ago
  Incorrect. In Europe a bachelors is either 3 or 4 years, and a masters is either 1 or 2 years. Full time. Source: https://ec.europa.eu/education/resources-and-tools/european-credit-transfer-and-accumulation-system-ects_en https://ec.europa.eu/education/resources-and-tools/european-...
  - trenchgun 5y ago
    Of course, it is possible to do a 90 ECTS masters (1 year full time) for two years part time. And it's possible to do a 180 ECTS masters (2 year full time) for four years part time.
    - Flashtoo 5y ago
      A full year is 60 ECTS. 180 would be three years full time.
Zababa 5y ago
Oh, that explains a lot. In France it's usually 3 years (180 ECTS) for a license (which is usually equivalent to a bachelor), 2 years (120 ECTS) for a master's degree and then usually 3 years for a PhD. At least in software, most people have a master's degree.
jstx1 5y ago
This isn't the case in England. Most master's degrees are 1 year and a master's isn't a requirement for many PhD programmes. So it's possible to do your entire higher education, including a PhD, in 6 years (3 years of undergrad + 3 years full-time PhD).
- chuckleMuscle 5y ago
  This is true in principle, but in practice my experience is you have to have an extraordinarily good CV to get funding without a masters degree. Natural science bias in my friendship group though. That said, a masters degree in the UK is much less of an undertaking than many other countries. Level of independent research in my "combined" masters (4 yr course, usually taken as 1st degree), pales in comparison to what colleagues in mainland Europe had to do.
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… if you already have a master’s degree, which takes 2 years. In the US many 5-6 year PhD programs do not require—and in fact include—a master’s degree.

by evanb 5y ago

… if you already have a master’s degree, which takes 2 years. In the US many 5-6 year PhD programs do not require—and in fact include—a master’s degree.

bombadilo 5y ago

A masters is typically one year full time, two years part time.

trenchgun 5y ago
Incorrect. In Europe a bachelors is either 3 or 4 years, and a masters is either 1 or 2 years. Full time. Source: https://ec.europa.eu/education/resources-and-tools/european-credit-transfer-and-accumulation-system-ects_en https://ec.europa.eu/education/resources-and-tools/european-...
- trenchgun 5y ago
  Of course, it is possible to do a 90 ECTS masters (1 year full time) for two years part time. And it's possible to do a 180 ECTS masters (2 year full time) for four years part time.
  - Flashtoo 5y ago
    A full year is 60 ECTS. 180 would be three years full time.

Zababa 5y ago

Oh, that explains a lot. In France it's usually 3 years (180 ECTS) for a license (which is usually equivalent to a bachelor), 2 years (120 ECTS) for a master's degree and then usually 3 years for a PhD. At least in software, most people have a master's degree.

jstx1 5y ago

This isn't the case in England. Most master's degrees are 1 year and a master's isn't a requirement for many PhD programmes. So it's possible to do your entire higher education, including a PhD, in 6 years (3 years of undergrad + 3 years full-time PhD).

chuckleMuscle 5y ago
This is true in principle, but in practice my experience is you have to have an extraordinarily good CV to get funding without a masters degree. Natural science bias in my friendship group though. That said, a masters degree in the UK is much less of an undertaking than many other countries. Level of independent research in my "combined" masters (4 yr course, usually taken as 1st degree), pales in comparison to what colleagues in mainland Europe had to do.

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