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I'm looking forward to the day when we can just feed books to a DL network and have it spit out a rendered movie. I'd love to train it on the LotR movies and s

I'm looking forward to the day when we can just feed books to a DL network and have it spit out a rendered movie. I'd love to train it on the LotR movies and spit out a book-accurate rendition of the story with those graphics.

LegitShady 5y ago
I don't think that's the way art I value would ever work. It sounds more like algorithmic factory production with no intention. "The algorithm thinks this will be like that other thing people like" is not a way to make novel and valuable new things, to me.
- tobyjsullivan 5y ago
  I think you're 100% correct that it would not be work of value. On the other hand, "The algorithm thinks this will be like that other thing people like" sounds like the exact model used for the majority of film and television today. Not least, this terrible rendition of Foundation.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    The most valuable thing would be the hilarious errors. When Gandalf shows up in Star Wars or darth vader is replaced with a ring wraith kind of thing. I’m sure this fanfiction exists somewhere already though.
- elzbardico 5y ago
  >It sounds more like algorithmic factory production with no intention. You just described modern Hollywood.
- lucraft 5y ago
  I don't think that's what 01100011 is saying though.. he's saying he'd love to see a movie that didn't adapt the material in any way, it just completely faithfully translated every line of dialogue and action to the screen. Presumably that would lead to a 42 hour Lord of the Rings movie with horrendous pacing issues etc. Which would make it a terrible business proposition for the movie industry now (literally: why?) but if an AI could spit it out cheaply a whole lot of LoTR fans would watch it avidly.
nextaccountic 5y ago
The LotR movies aren't book-accurate. But they are great!
- abecedarius 5y ago
  Those movies are outstanding on multiple axes, but in terms of story I hate what they did to the source. Yes you need to mess with it to make a movie that works as a movie, no that doesn't mean your Aragorn can murder an emissary on a parley. These changes aren't just unfaithful, they're standard modern Hollywood tropes, subtracting rather than adding interest.
  - nextaccountic 5y ago
    > that doesn't mean your Aragorn can murder an emissary on a parley What emissary?
    - abecedarius 5y ago
      https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Black_Gate#The_Return_of_the_King https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Black_Gate#The_Re... "Well, I guess that concludes negotiations!"
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    The movies seemed to try to make Aragorn a lot more relatable than the books do.
    - abecedarius 5y ago
      If people see a war criminal as more relatable... Killing an ambassador makes it harder to stop the fighting. That's bad for your own people, for a start.
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  The Hobbit films on the other hand fell rather flat. The Lord of the Rings trilogy seems like quite an achievement these days; I don't recall seeing the same amount of passion and dedication in any of the more recent film adaptations. But I think I might also be biased due to my age when it came out. I'm in my forties now, and I rarely bother with film and television now, preferring books instead.

LegitShady 5y ago

I don't think that's the way art I value would ever work. It sounds more like algorithmic factory production with no intention. "The algorithm thinks this will be like that other thing people like" is not a way to make novel and valuable new things, to me.

tobyjsullivan 5y ago
I think you're 100% correct that it would not be work of value. On the other hand, "The algorithm thinks this will be like that other thing people like" sounds like the exact model used for the majority of film and television today. Not least, this terrible rendition of Foundation.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  The most valuable thing would be the hilarious errors. When Gandalf shows up in Star Wars or darth vader is replaced with a ring wraith kind of thing. I’m sure this fanfiction exists somewhere already though.
elzbardico 5y ago
>It sounds more like algorithmic factory production with no intention. You just described modern Hollywood.
lucraft 5y ago
I don't think that's what 01100011 is saying though.. he's saying he'd love to see a movie that didn't adapt the material in any way, it just completely faithfully translated every line of dialogue and action to the screen. Presumably that would lead to a 42 hour Lord of the Rings movie with horrendous pacing issues etc. Which would make it a terrible business proposition for the movie industry now (literally: why?) but if an AI could spit it out cheaply a whole lot of LoTR fans would watch it avidly.

nextaccountic 5y ago

The LotR movies aren't book-accurate. But they are great!

abecedarius 5y ago
Those movies are outstanding on multiple axes, but in terms of story I hate what they did to the source. Yes you need to mess with it to make a movie that works as a movie, no that doesn't mean your Aragorn can murder an emissary on a parley. These changes aren't just unfaithful, they're standard modern Hollywood tropes, subtracting rather than adding interest.
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  > that doesn't mean your Aragorn can murder an emissary on a parley What emissary?
  - abecedarius 5y ago
    https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Black_Gate#The_Return_of_the_King https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Black_Gate#The_Re... "Well, I guess that concludes negotiations!"
- LegitShady 5y ago
  The movies seemed to try to make Aragorn a lot more relatable than the books do.
  - abecedarius 5y ago
    If people see a war criminal as more relatable... Killing an ambassador makes it harder to stop the fighting. That's bad for your own people, for a start.
Freak_NL 5y ago
The Hobbit films on the other hand fell rather flat. The Lord of the Rings trilogy seems like quite an achievement these days; I don't recall seeing the same amount of passion and dedication in any of the more recent film adaptations. But I think I might also be biased due to my age when it came out. I'm in my forties now, and I rarely bother with film and television now, preferring books instead.