Then you are not agreeing with me at all. In my opinion these issues have to do primarily with the out of control scale and scripting of modern sites. Scale a

Then you are not agreeing with me at all. In my opinion these issues have to do primarily with the out of control scale and scripting of modern sites. Scale and scripting has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with layout and graphical design which is the target of the site guidelines. Reasonable people can differ but let us be clear about the lines we are both drawing.