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Investing in arms manufacturers could also hasten the end of civilization and possibly cause human extinction. Although the climate crisis is dire, I do not th

Investing in arms manufacturers could also hasten the end of civilization and possibly cause human extinction. Although the climate crisis is dire, I do not think that climate change alone is likely to kill us all. Resource wars that result from the climate crisis, however, I think could finish off humanity. Arms manufacturers do what they can to increase the likelihood of war. Not to mention that militaries produce disproportionate amounts of greenhouse gases. I mean, arms manufacturing is blood money even in "ordinary" times, but it takes another level of self-destructive evil to attempt to profit off the apocalypse.

shrimpx 5y ago
Profiting off the apocalypse is exactly what’s happening in the fossil fuel-based industries isn’t it? It may not look like the apocalypse until the last minute.
- PeterisP 5y ago
  It's not about profiting, it's about what your community needs. If you are one of "all those people won't just keel over and die" (as the grandparent post states), then your community will need arms to, well, not just keel over and die. The same applies for any community that might get overrun by their neighbours - if global warming is going to bring on resource conflicts, if you refuse to be prepared and armed as a deterrant, then you will be inviting violence to your home as you will be an attractive victim. Sic pace, para bellum is an ancient principle that's relevant whenever a contest for resources becomes meaningful; so the point in investing in arms companies is not about profit, but about ensuring that your community suffers less in the coming turndown; you and your community will not get a "fair share" of dwindling resources just by existing (that's hard enough even in times of plenty with less motivation to compete for basic resources), it will get only as much as its strength allows.
scohesc 5y ago
I think the climate crisis will cause new companies to emerge and make technologies and ideas to harvest these minerals that are now unavailable with current technologies. Coincidentally, it's going to be deep-water oil drilling that has the most capability of helping technology-wise in this future.

shrimpx 5y ago

Profiting off the apocalypse is exactly what’s happening in the fossil fuel-based industries isn’t it? It may not look like the apocalypse until the last minute.

PeterisP 5y ago
It's not about profiting, it's about what your community needs. If you are one of "all those people won't just keel over and die" (as the grandparent post states), then your community will need arms to, well, not just keel over and die. The same applies for any community that might get overrun by their neighbours - if global warming is going to bring on resource conflicts, if you refuse to be prepared and armed as a deterrant, then you will be inviting violence to your home as you will be an attractive victim. Sic pace, para bellum is an ancient principle that's relevant whenever a contest for resources becomes meaningful; so the point in investing in arms companies is not about profit, but about ensuring that your community suffers less in the coming turndown; you and your community will not get a "fair share" of dwindling resources just by existing (that's hard enough even in times of plenty with less motivation to compete for basic resources), it will get only as much as its strength allows.

scohesc 5y ago

I think the climate crisis will cause new companies to emerge and make technologies and ideas to harvest these minerals that are now unavailable with current technologies. Coincidentally, it's going to be deep-water oil drilling that has the most capability of helping technology-wise in this future.