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I personally disagree. I live on the extreme west end of a time zone, and I greatly enjoy having an more daylight during my after-work leisure time. Without DST

• jedberg 5y ago
  What if we just stayed on DST year round?
  • _ph_ 5y ago
    It wouldn't change a thing. The deeper cause of the day rythm is the daylight cycle. We adjust all our times, like start of work day or school start relative to that - mostly so that you get up after or not too long before sunrise and have most of the daylight during work time. If you change the time zone setting, day times are going to adjust accordingly.
  • Mindless2112 5y ago
    Some people with children don't like that because "[their] children will have to go to school in the dark" during the winter. That's what killed legislation to make DST permanent where I live.
    • _ph_ 5y ago
      More importantly, they might fail in getting their children awake and out of the house in the first place, it is before sunset :p
    • jedberg 5y ago
      I have children, and the time change is far worse than going in the dark. Also, kids in Alaska go in the dark all the time and survive just fine. And if they have an after school activity, they have to come home in the dark anyway. It's a red herring.
    • Apocryphon 5y ago
      Sounds like last year, when all of the schools were closed, would've been the optimal time to push through any sort of change.
    • watwut 5y ago
      With kids, I would prefer them having sun when they can actually be outside on that sun.
    • WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
      > "[their] children will have to go to school in the dark" during the winter. Then we move school start times to what's biologically optimal for kids instead of what optimizes budgets.
• kyruzic 5y ago
  Day light savings time is the process of switch clocks forward 1 hour in the spring. This transfers 1 hour of sunlight from the morning to the night, hence increasing the hours of daylight. Then in the fall day light savings time ends and we give that hour back to the morning. If we eliminated day light savings time you would still have post work sunlight in the winter.
  • WorldMaker 5y ago
    In the far west end of many timezones you never have post-work sunlight in the winter and the DST fight is over keep some post-work sunlight in the spring/fall and even parts of the summer. Western edges of timezones often favor/prefer year-round "daylight time" because that's closer to their natural noon as US timezones especially heavily favor natural noon on the eastern border.
    • dragonwriter 5y ago
      > In the far west end of many timezones you never have post-work sunlight in the winter So...fix the problem at the source by changing the boundaries so solar noon is clock noon at (approximately) the center of the zone instead of the eastern boundary.
      • WorldMaker 5y ago
        I think a lot of US timezones at least would split roughly in half if we entirely got rid of DST with eastern cities picking standard time and western cities picking daylight time. I think that's a big part of why we continue to debate getting rid of DST and never actually do it because no one wants to redraw the timezone boundaries.
        • WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
          There's the notion of getting rid of multiple timezones altogether.
• 0xCMP 5y ago
  Why can't the time someone wakes up or works change with the season, but using the same timezone? What is the point to call it 7a when it's actually 6a?
  • vikingerik 5y ago
    It's the advantage of centralization. Instead of every entity changing their operational hours, they peg it to a common standard, and simply change the standard. It's a layer of indirection. By doing it this way, we keep things in synch, like business hours matching school hours matching transit timetables and so on. If every one of them changed their hours separately, we'd have a much greater mess than the less-bad current approach to daylight time. Whether we want the functionality at all (to adjust human activities based on sunlight hours) is a separate question. Given that we do, DST is a useful abstraction compared to going without it.
• ZetaZero 5y ago
  Just curious, why not just just start and end your job an hour earlier all year round, 7-4 instead of 8-5? Then you gain an extra hour of evening sun all year, instead of just during DST?
• barbazoo 5y ago
  Getting rid of DST doesn't have to mean to stay on standard time permanently. BC for instance chooses to stay on DST. Some day. Hopefully. At least the legislation is already there.
• pdonis 5y ago
  This doesn't make sense to me. If you're on the extreme western end of a time zone, the clock time of sunset is later compared to points further east in the same time zone. So you're in better shape for post-work sunlight than anyone else in your time zone. The people who have it worst for post-work sunlight are the ones at the extreme eastern end of a time zone.