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If I could put on my conspiracy hat... Perhaps this is related to Canada's detention of he Huawei executive. Someone put their foot down and said Chinese hardwa
by Ajay-p 5y ago
If I could put on my conspiracy hat... Perhaps this is related to Canada's detention of he Huawei executive. Someone put their foot down and said Chinese hardware is spying on us, and perhaps they forced China to give up how.
At it's core, the world absolutely cannot trust China. Because Huawei is a de facto company owned by the Chinese government, it stands to reason that the distrust must be extended to Huawei. The product may be good, but China has very little credibility anymore, and should absolutely not be trusted.
- gonational 5y ago[flagged]
- klarstrup 5y agoWhat is an ideologue?
- gonational 5y agoSomebody who is dogmatically following an ideology; think of an ideologue as somebody who is running an abstract program in place of their normal ability to think about information using the principles they have naturally acquired through their life experiences. Having ideas that map 1:1 to those of an ideology does not intrinsically make you an ideologue. Forming those ideas, based on conformity to an ideology that you have subscribed to, does.
- pvg 5y agoThis matches 'red scare' quite nicely and might give you some food for further thought.
- gonational 5y agoThe definition of ideologue matches the red scare? Are you sure you meant to reply to that comment?
- pvg 5y agoI meant to reply to that comment, yes.
- dang 5y agoPlease don't break the site guidelines like this. If you have evidence of abuse, you should email it to hn@ycombinator.com so we can investigate. In the meantime, please stick to this rule: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken." Groundless speculation about manipulation is basically the most common weed growing on internet forums, it nearly always turns out to be a function of cognitive bias (e.g. people see posts they don't like and conclude that their enemies have the run of the place), and it makes for tedious, low-quality discussion. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... There are many past explanations (some very in-depth) of why we moderate HN this way. Here are some: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 (<-- Mini-FAQ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397695
- Topgamer7 5y agoUS "asks" Canada to detain prominent Corporate exec. China "convicts" Canadian spies. You're right that this is all related to global politics. Should you really trust a modern nation? All three nations I've mentioned prove that they spy on their own and each others citizens. Its been well established that encryption standards have been tampered with from the outset, all our modern CPU's exploitable microcode, if not backdoored. I don't even consider this a conspiracy, from a strictly technical perspective, if it's possible, its probably either been tried or fully implemented to exploit.
- kfprt 5y agoChina's hostage diplomacy is a bit different than breaking export laws.
- maerF0x0 5y agoBut who do you trust more? I prefer a revolving door of elected leaders more than a false democracy. It's more the non-transient "state" that worries me how we get to elect our representatives, but many of their staff are in practice there across many terms influencing the direction of the country across their career[1]. I prefer countries with a better track record on human rights and freedoms than the CPC. [1]: Edward snowden talks about this in his book Permanent Record
- freeflight 5y ago> I prefer countries with a better track record on human rights and freedoms than the CPC. Because the United States track record on human rights and freedoms is so much superior?
- scottLobster 5y agoFor the last 100 years or so, yes.
- tehjoker 5y agoJust a small selection of domestic crimes from within the past 100 years. Our crimes abroad are even more significant. https://depts.washington.edu/moves/CRC_genocide.shtml https://depts.washington.edu/moves/CRC_genocide.shtml
- freeflight 5y ago[flagged]
- andrepd 5y agoAre you implying that ethnic cleansing is not underway in Xianjing, or that there undue media coverage compared to US torture? Because neither one is accurate, in my opinion...
- WhySoGullible 5y ago[flagged]
- pcwalton 5y agoThe article you cited states unequivocally that the CPC has committed crimes against humanity in Xinjiang. Further: > There is little dispute within the U.S. government that China’s treatment of the Uighur population has been horrific and criminal: More than 1 million Uighurs have been detained in reeducation camps, and many have reportedly been subjected to forced labor and sterilization. China has committed numerous crimes listed in the convention as acts of genocide, including the prevention of births and infliction of bodily or mental harm on members of a group and the compulsory separation of children from their communities, according to human rights groups.
- WhySoGullible 5y agoGullible Americans like you are what enabled events like the invasion of Iraq over laughably false premises. Americans like you can’t even recognize manufactured consent when its staring you straight in the face. Have a nice day.
- CyanBird 5y agoCrimes against humanity are different han ethnic cleansing which is different from the UN notes in Genocides Please avoid intermingling all the terms, they are very specific for a reason, and the reason being to avoid US, Canada,, Colombia, Brasil and many others to also fall within the label of being genociding or ethnicly cleansing their own people
- inasio 5y agoKeep in mind it was not just some Huawei executive. Huawei is a private company, and Meng Wanzhou is the daughter of the founder/owner...
- bobsmooth 5y agoThere are no private companies in China.