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The worst bit is, and I say this as someone who is and always has been very left wing, that the current left wing culture are actually making this possible. Th

The worst bit is, and I say this as someone who is and always has been very left wing, that the current left wing culture are actually making this possible. They've winged and winged about anyone tweeting anything controversial about a perceived 'vulnerable minority' and this has always been the end game. They want people to be punished for causing offense. I can't believe these morons go around joining groups like antifa, protesting against authoritarianism and yet spend half their energy campaigning for laws that would be an authoritarian governments wet dream.

arp242 5y ago
The amount of in-fighting over a small disagreement is astounding, as is the conflation between "disagreement" and "causing harm". If you disagree on some intellectual framework regarding gender identity – to name something controversial – then this absolutely does not equal "discrimination". It's a massive distraction over the actual issues that matter, never mind turning people off from the left in general. It's kind of amazing because people in the West live in the most free and non-discriminatory society in all of recorded history. Yes, there are still problems and it's not perfect and these problems require adressing, but try being gay 50 years ago, or in most non-Western countries. We really do have it quite good. There is kind of a curious parallel with Trump's "Make America Great Again!"-rhetoric where he presents the US as a kind of dystopian hellscape, which is not that dissimilar to how it's presented among some of these people. My take-away from this is that there actually are some deep-rooted problems in the way we organize our society, and that the dissatisfaction, frustration, and anger over this manifests itself in different ways. Brexit is another interesting example, because it always seemed to me not so much about the EU, but more a general dissatisfaction about the state of things.

arp242 5y ago

The amount of in-fighting over a small disagreement is astounding, as is the conflation between "disagreement" and "causing harm". If you disagree on some intellectual framework regarding gender identity – to name something controversial – then this absolutely does not equal "discrimination". It's a massive distraction over the actual issues that matter, never mind turning people off from the left in general. It's kind of amazing because people in the West live in the most free and non-discriminatory society in all of recorded history. Yes, there are still problems and it's not perfect and these problems require adressing, but try being gay 50 years ago, or in most non-Western countries. We really do have it quite good. There is kind of a curious parallel with Trump's "Make America Great Again!"-rhetoric where he presents the US as a kind of dystopian hellscape, which is not that dissimilar to how it's presented among some of these people. My take-away from this is that there actually are some deep-rooted problems in the way we organize our society, and that the dissatisfaction, frustration, and anger over this manifests itself in different ways. Brexit is another interesting example, because it always seemed to me not so much about the EU, but more a general dissatisfaction about the state of things.