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> There is probably no good reason to distrust Huawei. https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-huawei-dilemma-insecurity-and-mistrust/ https://thediplomat.com/2019
by LurkingPenguin 5y ago
> There is probably no good reason to distrust Huawei.
https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-huawei-dilemma-insecurity-and-mistrust/ https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-huawei-dilemma-insecurit...
> The findings to these lines of inquiry proved troubling to the Intelligence Committee. The probe examined Huawei’s and ZTE’s ties to the Chinese state, including support by the Chinese government and connections to the Communist Party of China, and their work done on behalf of the Chinese military and intelligence services. For instance, Congressional investigators were concerned with the background of Mr. Ren, Huawei’s founder, who had links to the 3PLA – China’s signals intelligence division – and the Communist Party, such as serving as a member to the 12th National Congress. They did not find credible claims or evidence that the company was, in fact, an employee-owned and controlled enterprise or had an independent board of directors.
> Instead, the Intelligence Committee found that the Chinese government and Communist Party exerted influence over and supported Huawei as a “national champion.” For example, Huawei admitted that an internal Party Committee existing within the company, consistent with Chinese law, but refused to discuss or describe the role, membership, or impact of this group on corporate decision-making. Huawei’s failure to provide further detailed information explaining how it is formally regulated, controlled, or otherwise managed by the Chinese government undermined, in the view of Congressional investigators, the company’s repeated assertions that it is not inappropriately influenced by the Chinese government.
> Huawei also refused to provide answers to direct questions about its financing and connections with Chinese state banks, nor did it provide internal documentation or auditable financial records to evaluate its claims that any financing arrangements comply with standard practice and international trade agreements. In support, Congressional investigators cited the earlier finding of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission that enterprises like Huawei rely on generous state-backed financing to make an investment project in a new market viable. To the detriment of U.S. competitors, financial subsidies from the Chinese government can enable its national champions to penetrate markets by offering products below the costs of production.
> Additionally, the Intelligence Committee found that Huawei exhibited a “pattern of reckless disregard” for the intellectual property rights of U.S. companies. Congressional investigators cited Huawei’s settlement in civil litigation with Cisco, in which Huawei agreed to remove certain products from the marketplace due to violations of Cisco’s intellectual property rights. Whistleblowers – former employees of Huawei – also offered testimony that the company deliberately used the patented material of other firms. In the judgment of the Intelligence Committee, these issues with intellectual property rights raised broader concerns of Huawei’s compliance with U.S. laws in general.
- kspacewalk2 5y ago>Additionally, the Intelligence Committee found that Huawei exhibited a “pattern of reckless disregard” for the intellectual property rights of U.S. companies. Not just US companies. Huawei has stolen a ton of Nortel IP. This is largely the reason for their 5G tech edge[0] https://nationalpost.com/news/exclusive-did-huawei-bring-down-nortel-corporate-espionage-theft-and-the-parallel-rise-and-fall-of-two-telecom-giants https://nationalpost.com/news/exclusive-did-huawei-bring-dow...
- scohesc 5y agoIt's really depressing to see such a wonderful Canadian owned company being completely dismantled and destroyed by foreign powers while everyone stood back and watched.
- pessimizer 5y agoThis can be summarized as "The Chinese Government Supports Huawei" + a lot of appeals to authority and claims of refusals to answer arbitrary questions that US companies certainly wouldn't answer if China asked. The US government supports Cisco, and its diplomats are used to sell Cisco products. The forced replacement of Huawei equipment is an example of that. If China were doing diplomacy and passing legislation that made US products illegal internationally, it would be worse than any of the accusations made here against China. Only if you're already convinced that China and its people are evil, and that their winning an economic war against the US is a sign of the end times, will this reasoning convince you. China has triple the population of the US; it should be doing better.
- LurkingPenguin 5y agoThe Chinese people aren't evil. One can reasonably argue, however, that the CCP is. The greatest victim of the CCP has been and continues to be the Chinese people, who live in a dystopian surveillance state controlled by an authoritarian ruler who has fashioned himself as a new Mao and uses whatever tactics he deems appropriate to crush political threats, suppress dissent, and eliminate ethnic and religious minorities. I have been living in Asia and for the past several years have lived approximately 100 miles away from the Chinese shores in a free and democratic country that is in grave danger because a man who can't stand being compared to a cartoon character and his sycophants believe that it belongs to them. The US is not the land of saints, but to anyone who feels the urge to engage in whataboutism regarding China, I encourage you to read about the history of the CCP, what it has done and continues to do to the Chinese and Tibetan people, its ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs and what its goals are for the Indo-Pacific. > China has triple the population of the US; it should be doing better. Doing better by what metric? Look at China's GDP per capita. The country is desperately trying to escape the middle income trap and a lot of the growing tensions in the region are related to the fact that the real picture of what's happening in China is not as pretty as the one the CCP projects.