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Right. And? G+ isn't some right that Google is required to make available for everyone. Google's handling of this is a bit ham-fisted to be sure, but equally

Right. And? G+ isn't some right that Google is required to make available for everyone. Google's handling of this is a bit ham-fisted to be sure, but equally irksome is the vitriolic entitlement mentality that a lot (not all) are bringing to the discussion.

sp332 15y ago
OK, the entitlement of people who are simultaneously claiming to be un-privileged is annoying. But Google has global influence, so for them to exclude a bunch of people seems strange. And they're really shooting themselves in the foot. Because of the network effect, they've just made their social network geometrically less valuable to the people in it, and less attractive to anyone looking to join.
- sixtofour 15y ago
  Not to mention loss of other google services. When my account is suspended tomorrow, they tell me I will also lose access to Picasa and Reader. People have lost access to gmail, although that is supposedly a bug (although I have already moved all my mail to fastmail.fm). To their credit, they gave me time (four days) to download my data, which I've done. And even if I don't lose access to gmail, who's to say that won't happen on purpose in the near future? It's obvious that Google wants to leverage + as much as possible. What about ad sense? Google apps? Everything is potentially targeted for pulling into the Plus system. Finally, I've heard that beyond Picasa access, loss of your G+ profile interferes with Android utility. I don't know specifically what, or even whether that's true.
  - sesqu 15y ago
    This linking of services is very irksome, and has driven me off of several. Microsoft was there first, as usual, but Google is following in their footsteps.
    - yanw 15y ago
      Other services aren't affected. Period.
  - yanw 15y ago
    That is just a vicious rumor. They explicitly said the no other service of theirs will be affected.
    - sp332 15y ago
      They've said that repeatedly, but it keeps happening so I'm still not believing them. http://www.docpop.org/2011/08/googles-antisocial-behavior/ http://www.docpop.org/2011/08/googles-antisocial-behavior/

sp332 15y ago

OK, the entitlement of people who are simultaneously claiming to be un-privileged is annoying. But Google has global influence, so for them to exclude a bunch of people seems strange. And they're really shooting themselves in the foot. Because of the network effect, they've just made their social network geometrically less valuable to the people in it, and less attractive to anyone looking to join.

sixtofour 15y ago
Not to mention loss of other google services. When my account is suspended tomorrow, they tell me I will also lose access to Picasa and Reader. People have lost access to gmail, although that is supposedly a bug (although I have already moved all my mail to fastmail.fm). To their credit, they gave me time (four days) to download my data, which I've done. And even if I don't lose access to gmail, who's to say that won't happen on purpose in the near future? It's obvious that Google wants to leverage + as much as possible. What about ad sense? Google apps? Everything is potentially targeted for pulling into the Plus system. Finally, I've heard that beyond Picasa access, loss of your G+ profile interferes with Android utility. I don't know specifically what, or even whether that's true.
- sesqu 15y ago
  This linking of services is very irksome, and has driven me off of several. Microsoft was there first, as usual, but Google is following in their footsteps.
  - yanw 15y ago
    Other services aren't affected. Period.
- yanw 15y ago
  That is just a vicious rumor. They explicitly said the no other service of theirs will be affected.
  - sp332 15y ago
    They've said that repeatedly, but it keeps happening so I'm still not believing them. http://www.docpop.org/2011/08/googles-antisocial-behavior/ http://www.docpop.org/2011/08/googles-antisocial-behavior/