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I don't think I'd feel comfortable using such a direct clone of someone else's software. From a cursory glance it doesn't seem that Fulcrum brings anything new

I don't think I'd feel comfortable using such a direct clone of someone else's software. From a cursory glance it doesn't seem that Fulcrum brings anything new to the table, so using it would make me feel like I was stealing from Pivotal. Hopefully over time Fulcrum can differentiate itself and compete on features, not on price.

socratic 15y ago
Personally, it's worth $7/month for me not to have to set up and maintain some random early stage software, irregardless of any moral considerations. That said, what's most interesting about this to me is how few of Pivotal Tracker's features I actually use. I mean, this basic version appears to mostly implement a drag and drop to-do list in a three pane view with n task states, comments, and descriptions. That's pretty much what I use Pivotal for in practice. By contrast, Pivotal has all sorts of nonsense that I don't really understand, like burn down or burn up graphs or whatever. Two questions: (1) Are there features that Pivotal provides beyond the features that this skeletal clone provides that are really useful and that I should be aware of? (2) Are there features that an agile project management system like Pivotal can provide that are hard to code and useful (i.e., differentiating) without increasing the overall complexity of the user interface?
- snprbob86 15y ago
  Pivotal Tracker embodies a philosophy of sorts. It's surprisingly useful if you totally ignore that philosophy, but it's much better if you embrace it. Their help page https://www.pivotaltracker.com/help https://www.pivotaltracker.com/help is a somewhat revealing, as they include FAQs that provide insight into the philosophy. Maybe someone else has a better link to an overview or some kind of "ah-ha moment" story.
drdaeman 15y ago
Stealing what? Fulcrum developers had decided to implement FOSS self-hosted solution, comparable to Pivotal Tracker. They even wrote this clearly in project's README file. How that could be "stealing"?
- icomment 15y ago
  The same kind of stealing what Apple is suing Samsung for.
- jacobian 15y ago
  Please read what I wrote more carefully. I didn't say that the the Fulcrum developers were stealing. I said that I would feel like I was stealing from the Pivotal developers by using a free clone instead of paying for the original. Since Fulcrum os (or appears to be) so similar to Pivotal I'd feel as if I was choosing it simply to avoid paying, and that isn't a feeling I'd like to have.

socratic 15y ago

Personally, it's worth $7/month for me not to have to set up and maintain some random early stage software, irregardless of any moral considerations. That said, what's most interesting about this to me is how few of Pivotal Tracker's features I actually use. I mean, this basic version appears to mostly implement a drag and drop to-do list in a three pane view with n task states, comments, and descriptions. That's pretty much what I use Pivotal for in practice. By contrast, Pivotal has all sorts of nonsense that I don't really understand, like burn down or burn up graphs or whatever. Two questions: (1) Are there features that Pivotal provides beyond the features that this skeletal clone provides that are really useful and that I should be aware of? (2) Are there features that an agile project management system like Pivotal can provide that are hard to code and useful (i.e., differentiating) without increasing the overall complexity of the user interface?

snprbob86 15y ago
Pivotal Tracker embodies a philosophy of sorts. It's surprisingly useful if you totally ignore that philosophy, but it's much better if you embrace it. Their help page https://www.pivotaltracker.com/help https://www.pivotaltracker.com/help is a somewhat revealing, as they include FAQs that provide insight into the philosophy. Maybe someone else has a better link to an overview or some kind of "ah-ha moment" story.

drdaeman 15y ago

Stealing what? Fulcrum developers had decided to implement FOSS self-hosted solution, comparable to Pivotal Tracker. They even wrote this clearly in project's README file. How that could be "stealing"?

icomment 15y ago
The same kind of stealing what Apple is suing Samsung for.
jacobian 15y ago
Please read what I wrote more carefully. I didn't say that the the Fulcrum developers were stealing. I said that I would feel like I was stealing from the Pivotal developers by using a free clone instead of paying for the original. Since Fulcrum os (or appears to be) so similar to Pivotal I'd feel as if I was choosing it simply to avoid paying, and that isn't a feeling I'd like to have.