> how capable are we as a society even to recognize the propaganda and lies when we see them I would argue that many of the things that get categorised as Trut

> how capable are we as a society even to recognize the propaganda and lies when we see them I would argue that many of the things that get categorised as Truth or Lie are actually not so easy to distinguish as we might hope. We do not enjoy a world of clear, mathematically-precise binary choices, but instead have to deal with things like opinions, parts of facts, unknowns, and complex systems whose outcomes have multiple causes. There are many things which I see paraded as absolute certainties where I myself reserve some room for doubt, even where I may mostly agree. I feel the larger issue facing us is not a torrent of absolute lies, but an overconfidence in discerning the lie, and a retreat from humility, nuance, and reasonableness (which is not the same as rationality).