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What are you quoting? https://www.google.com/search?q=%22individualism+is+a+white+construct%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22individualism+is+a+white+...

angelzen 5y ago
Google tip: lose the quotes, use just keywords. https://www.google.com/search?q=individualism+white https://www.google.com/search?q=individualism+white 4th result, the notorious 2011 "White Fragility" by one R. DiAngelo. Let's search for the root, "individual". Something perhaps interesting: "At the same time that whites are taught to see their interests and perspectives as universal, they are also taught to value the individual and to see themselves as individuals rather than as part of a racially socialized group. Individualism erases history and hides the ways in which wealth has been distributed and accumulated over generations to benefit whites today. It allows whites to view themselves as unique and original, outside of socialization and unaffected by the relentless racial messages in the culture. Individualism also allows whites to distance themselves from the actions of their racial group and demand to be granted the benefit of the doubt, as individuals, in all cases. A corollary to this unracialized identity is the ability to recognize Whiteness as something that is significant and that operates in society, but to not see how it relates to one’s own life. In this form, a white person recognizes Whiteness as real, but as the individual problem of other “bad” white people (DiAngelo, 2010a)." https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/article/viewFile/249/116 https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/article/viewFile/249/116
- omgitsabird 5y ago
  I quoted it because it was presented as such, but thank you for sharing this.
  - angelzen 5y ago
    FWIW, I think the OP used quotes to distance himself from the quoted text, not to literally quote a passage.
noduerme 5y ago
I should have used single quotes. I was actually paraphrasing from a course that was offered to math teachers by the Oregon Dept of Education. The coursebook was authored by an organization called "A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction"[1]. The first book of the course contains the following [2,3]: "As a visual indicator, we italicize the terms used to identify white supremacy characteristics as defined by Jones and Okun (2001). They are as follows: • Perfectionism • Sense of Urgency • Defensiveness • Quantity Over Quality • Worship of the Written Word • Paternalism • Either/Or Thinking • Power Hoarding • Fear of Open Conflict • Individualism • Only One Right Way • Progress is Bigger, More • Objectivity • Right to Comfort" And: "While there is some value in students being able to complete work independently, when this is the only or most common avenue for learning or practicing, it reinforces individualism and the notion that I’m the only one. This does not give value to collectivism and community understanding, and fosters conditions for competition and individual success, which perpetuates the idea that if a student is failing it is because they are not trying hard enough or that they don’t care." [1] https://equitablemath.org https://equitablemath.org [2] * https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11... *, 6 [3] Ibid, 63 As an aside, I don't even think the attempt to slander "individualism" as white supremacy is nearly the most alarming or offensive thing on a list that also degrades objectivity, promotes open conflict, and bashes writing - the most basic defining feature of civilization. As a Jewish person, I also can't help thinking that "Worship of the Written Word" is a direct assault on Judaism, a religion in which the sanctity of life and the sanctity of the written word go hand in hand. In fact, disrespect for the written word calls directly to mind the white supremacists who burned Jewish books in Nazi Germany.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  In a country (and world) where racism has caused generations of horrors and white supremacy is resurgent, it's incredible to see how much effort is spent - almost all of it in forums like HN - on attacking antiracists. One book 'offered' in one state (if it was offered - what does that mean? do you have evidence?) is nothing compared to vast abuses of racism. What are you doing about racism? As many African-Americans predicted to me, if you complain about it then people really attack you.

angelzen 5y ago

Google tip: lose the quotes, use just keywords. https://www.google.com/search?q=individualism+white https://www.google.com/search?q=individualism+white 4th result, the notorious 2011 "White Fragility" by one R. DiAngelo. Let's search for the root, "individual". Something perhaps interesting: "At the same time that whites are taught to see their interests and perspectives as universal, they are also taught to value the individual and to see themselves as individuals rather than as part of a racially socialized group. Individualism erases history and hides the ways in which wealth has been distributed and accumulated over generations to benefit whites today. It allows whites to view themselves as unique and original, outside of socialization and unaffected by the relentless racial messages in the culture. Individualism also allows whites to distance themselves from the actions of their racial group and demand to be granted the benefit of the doubt, as individuals, in all cases. A corollary to this unracialized identity is the ability to recognize Whiteness as something that is significant and that operates in society, but to not see how it relates to one’s own life. In this form, a white person recognizes Whiteness as real, but as the individual problem of other “bad” white people (DiAngelo, 2010a)." https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/article/viewFile/249/116 https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/article/viewFile/249/116

omgitsabird 5y ago
I quoted it because it was presented as such, but thank you for sharing this.
- angelzen 5y ago
  FWIW, I think the OP used quotes to distance himself from the quoted text, not to literally quote a passage.

noduerme 5y ago

I should have used single quotes. I was actually paraphrasing from a course that was offered to math teachers by the Oregon Dept of Education. The coursebook was authored by an organization called "A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction"[1]. The first book of the course contains the following [2,3]: "As a visual indicator, we italicize the terms used to identify white supremacy characteristics as defined by Jones and Okun (2001). They are as follows: • Perfectionism • Sense of Urgency • Defensiveness • Quantity Over Quality • Worship of the Written Word • Paternalism • Either/Or Thinking • Power Hoarding • Fear of Open Conflict • Individualism • Only One Right Way • Progress is Bigger, More • Objectivity • Right to Comfort" And: "While there is some value in students being able to complete work independently, when this is the only or most common avenue for learning or practicing, it reinforces individualism and the notion that I’m the only one. This does not give value to collectivism and community understanding, and fosters conditions for competition and individual success, which perpetuates the idea that if a student is failing it is because they are not trying hard enough or that they don’t care." [1] https://equitablemath.org https://equitablemath.org [2] * https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11... *, 6 [3] Ibid, 63 As an aside, I don't even think the attempt to slander "individualism" as white supremacy is nearly the most alarming or offensive thing on a list that also degrades objectivity, promotes open conflict, and bashes writing - the most basic defining feature of civilization. As a Jewish person, I also can't help thinking that "Worship of the Written Word" is a direct assault on Judaism, a religion in which the sanctity of life and the sanctity of the written word go hand in hand. In fact, disrespect for the written word calls directly to mind the white supremacists who burned Jewish books in Nazi Germany.

wolverine876 5y ago
In a country (and world) where racism has caused generations of horrors and white supremacy is resurgent, it's incredible to see how much effort is spent - almost all of it in forums like HN - on attacking antiracists. One book 'offered' in one state (if it was offered - what does that mean? do you have evidence?) is nothing compared to vast abuses of racism. What are you doing about racism? As many African-Americans predicted to me, if you complain about it then people really attack you.