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This biggest hinderance to adoption of UBI (imho) is the fact that nobody will want to 'volunteer' as the 'servant' class... I mean some will, most who would wi

This biggest hinderance to adoption of UBI (imho) is the fact that nobody will want to 'volunteer' as the 'servant' class... I mean some will, most who would will do it part-time, most people probably could get by without restaurants. It'd be painful, maybe communities work together and form communal kitchens where people take turns making meals, and maybe they get tipped for the effort... I'd rather not have the options to eat at places where people hate working, if it meant that person could have a better life, I'd be bummed when I'm craving something, but I'd find an alternative. The wealthiest people and upper class they probably couldn't survive if the only option was cooking something themselves. They'd probably end up hiring a personal chef for 500k/year, or something elaborate... There's so many jobs the top levels would never volunteer to do, not even just for a podcast or something. Dirty jobs or jobs that just suck. I consider these jobs basically modern forced servitude. Make no mistake you are forced unless you like being homeless and starving. I'm anxiously watching what happens, something has to balance out soon. It happened in the 1920s, and I think 60 years earlier... we're just do for a great re-balancing. It won't be pretty, and it'll be harder than any before it (global warming and all) but if we succeed, maybe post-scarcity could be in reach.

marak830 5y ago
With a UBI I'd probably go back to cooking professionally. Not for the crazy hour weeks I was doing though, but more passion cooking.
lotsofpulp 5y ago
> This biggest hinderance to adoption of UBI (imho) is the fact that nobody will want to 'volunteer' as the 'servant' class... I mean some will, most who would will do it part-time, most people probably could get by without restaurants. It'd be painful, maybe communities work together and form communal kitchens where people take turns making meals, and maybe they get tipped for the effort... Why would anyone need to volunteer to be in the servant class? The biggest hinderance to UBI is the 50% to 95% class not being able to afford all their normal luxuries since they are based on being able to purchase cheap toilet cleaning labor, due to the circumstances in which the people cleaning toilets were born. So many of people’s expectations of quality of life rely on them being above others on the socioeconomic ladder, that messing with this ranking is a political minefield. But supply and demand does not care for politics, hence you see the gutted US manufacturing moving to China, and the current moaning about “labor shortages” when migrant Mexican/Latin american labor slowed down due to Covid.
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marak830 5y ago

With a UBI I'd probably go back to cooking professionally. Not for the crazy hour weeks I was doing though, but more passion cooking.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

> This biggest hinderance to adoption of UBI (imho) is the fact that nobody will want to 'volunteer' as the 'servant' class... I mean some will, most who would will do it part-time, most people probably could get by without restaurants. It'd be painful, maybe communities work together and form communal kitchens where people take turns making meals, and maybe they get tipped for the effort... Why would anyone need to volunteer to be in the servant class? The biggest hinderance to UBI is the 50% to 95% class not being able to afford all their normal luxuries since they are based on being able to purchase cheap toilet cleaning labor, due to the circumstances in which the people cleaning toilets were born. So many of people’s expectations of quality of life rely on them being above others on the socioeconomic ladder, that messing with this ranking is a political minefield. But supply and demand does not care for politics, hence you see the gutted US manufacturing moving to China, and the current moaning about “labor shortages” when migrant Mexican/Latin american labor slowed down due to Covid.

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