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Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's in
by gtsop 5y ago
Seeing people getting excited about hegel is like seeing a kid learning physics and getting excited about newton's laws. Surely, it's a step forward to one's individual knowledge, it is a stepping stone, but the human intelect has gone beyond that and there are bigger problems to be solved.
So, when adressing an individual, props for discovering a great philosopher. When adressig a community of people/philosophers going back to hegel though... ouch... that's a regression...
My fear (for lack of a better word) is that people now portray hegel as something progressive. Whereas it should be more of those journeys we do as devs, where we take a closer look at some of the basic low level tools we use (eg read the docs of a language, or linux, or bash), learn them more in depth and then go back to doing more advanced stuff using that knowledge.
- lvass 5y agoWonderfully useful insight, thanks, now I know exactly what I must do. I'll study the most recently launched programming language, operating system and shell. I'm sure they're better and far more useful than C, linux or bash, just look how old those things are!
- gtsop 5y agoYou completely missed my point. I m am not even sure you read my comment, especially the last paragraph. I make an analogy of hegel as being one of the basic building blocks of philosophical knowledge. Also, I do not subscribe to the latest philosophical trends as these are mostly rehashes/reskins of old ones. Similar to many modern programming languages
- paganel 5y agoI'm not a philosopher by any means but I do believe that philosophy is actually the history of philosophy (or a very close approximation of that), and for that reason Hegel or Thomas Aquinas or Epicurus are as contemporary now when it comes to philosophy as they were when they were alive. Yes, there are ups and downs in their reception (for example the philosophy of Thomas Aquinas has had a long hiatus from public perception in the 1700s and the 1800s) but that only happened because of our different way to read/interpret the history of philosophy hence philosophy itself (the materialists in France and the empiricists in Britain weren't that fond of Aquinas).
- HKH2 5y agoThere are a lot of useless detours, as well as survivorship bias and namedropping. Added to that is the deliberate obtuseness of certain so-called philosophers. I wish philosophy were as noble as what you seem to believe.
- justin_time2 5y agoWho or what superseded Hegel then?
- MrBuddyCasino 5y agoNietzsche?
- gtsop 5y agoDialectic materialism by engels and marx. If you take their communist ideas out of the equation (because we may not agree on that), on their philosophical system, they took all the great dialectics of hegel, advanced it further and replaced hegel's idealism with materialism (very, very roughly speaking).
- B1FF_PSUVM 5y ago> If you take their communist ideas out of the equation For crying out loud, that was the point of the whole ball of wax. They came up with "scientific materialism" so they could "demonstrate" that the inexorable progress of history would lead from the original primitive communism to the final advanced communism. (All other believers in communism that did not adhere to the doctrine were to be shunned because their "unscientific" approach would make them bad guides.)
- tomlockwood 5y agoInteresting perspective, but Slavoj Žižek is one of the most influential contemporary philosophers and also a Hegelian.