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I don't think its a Covid after effect. Don't continue memeing that. I suggest this is just what social isolation and economic depression does to memory and c

I don't think its a Covid after effect. Don't continue memeing that. I suggest this is just what social isolation and economic depression does to memory and cognitive processing.

Tarsul 5y ago
there was a study from a German national healthcare provider (BARMER) that said that 7% of the people who had covid were ill (and not working) still 3 months after infection. This would mean that the amount of people who still had lingering effects but working would be higher (well, especially in the US) so these long covid effects shouldn't be entirely dismissed regarding labor figures. However, I agree they are only one part of a bigger picture. https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/corona-fast-jeder-fuenfte-nach-covid-19-erkrankung-laenger-als-vier-wochen-krankgeschrieben-a-b8cca022-e2b5-435e-b015-13f71d70674c https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/corona-fast-jeder-fuenfte-...
- WhisperingShiba 5y ago
  I believe that people are trying simply trying to meme this into reality, and its not A priori true that Covid has this effect on people. This belief goes as deep as what I believe to be humanities' true existential nature.
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    You respond to a study with "your belief". That's... not a convincing response.
    - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
      At first you think it doesn't matter, and then you realize its the only thing that matters. God/Buddha mind/Universe/Dao created the game, but humans created a whole lot too.
jmspring 5y ago
There is a stress that comes from isolation and change in what was "normal" for life. That directly leads to things like social isolation, economic impacts for some, etc. There is a cause and effect that comes from being in a pandemic. It doesn't help that places like the US are filled with idiots open to taking random drugs peddled by right wing media. But I'd generalize, the the general US being one of the few countries that allows rampant drug ads on most media and allows doctors to reap from recommendations of certain drugs.
- WhisperingShiba 5y ago
  The real virus is a total breakdown in our cohesion as a species. I can't be certain that certain drugs don't work, or are safe, but I do know there are many people who have a significant pieces of the national trust with completely opposite opinions, who are in life-or-death stake arguments with people. How can we deal with living in a society which feels it is post truth? Humans rely on consensus, but if the consensus mechanisms are blatantly failing, we have very little ability to sense the actual truth of things.
  - jmspring 5y ago
    It's just easier to avoid discussions. It's stupid that people who can be completely rational about most things become someone different around certain topics. Spending most of my time in a county in CA that 55-60% are pro conspiracy theory, it's just easier to avoid certain topics.
    - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
      The struggle is that some of what we think is reality is actually not reality. What I learned is its only a conspiracy theory if you don't believe it /right now/. And what you believe right now is highly influenced by your culture, parents and media. In a Nietzscheian sense, I have had to start from ground zero, about what I believe, and derive understandings through direct experience of nature. Unfortunately this is slower than consensus, so I also choose to trust sources on non-political topics such as math, physics, and construction/engineering. These days I look back on how much I used to think was truth, and I later came to a realization that it was actually illusion... I don't take much as blind fact these days, and try to stick close to things I can easily understand and get immediate feedback on, such as math, engineering and growing plants. Unfortunately, since so much of my life also consists of economy and psychology, I can't completely ignore the facets of reality out of my control. At least when people tell me they actually believe in a conspiracy theory, they can give me some pre-formatted viewpoint which I cant test their premises against.

I don't think its a Covid after effect. Don't continue memeing that. I suggest this is just what social isolation and economic depression does to memory and cognitive processing.

Tarsul 5y ago

there was a study from a German national healthcare provider (BARMER) that said that 7% of the people who had covid were ill (and not working) still 3 months after infection. This would mean that the amount of people who still had lingering effects but working would be higher (well, especially in the US) so these long covid effects shouldn't be entirely dismissed regarding labor figures. However, I agree they are only one part of a bigger picture. https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/corona-fast-jeder-fuenfte-nach-covid-19-erkrankung-laenger-als-vier-wochen-krankgeschrieben-a-b8cca022-e2b5-435e-b015-13f71d70674c https://www.spiegel.de/gesundheit/corona-fast-jeder-fuenfte-...

WhisperingShiba 5y ago
I believe that people are trying simply trying to meme this into reality, and its not A priori true that Covid has this effect on people. This belief goes as deep as what I believe to be humanities' true existential nature.
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  You respond to a study with "your belief". That's... not a convincing response.
  - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
    At first you think it doesn't matter, and then you realize its the only thing that matters. God/Buddha mind/Universe/Dao created the game, but humans created a whole lot too.

jmspring 5y ago

There is a stress that comes from isolation and change in what was "normal" for life. That directly leads to things like social isolation, economic impacts for some, etc. There is a cause and effect that comes from being in a pandemic. It doesn't help that places like the US are filled with idiots open to taking random drugs peddled by right wing media. But I'd generalize, the the general US being one of the few countries that allows rampant drug ads on most media and allows doctors to reap from recommendations of certain drugs.

WhisperingShiba 5y ago
The real virus is a total breakdown in our cohesion as a species. I can't be certain that certain drugs don't work, or are safe, but I do know there are many people who have a significant pieces of the national trust with completely opposite opinions, who are in life-or-death stake arguments with people. How can we deal with living in a society which feels it is post truth? Humans rely on consensus, but if the consensus mechanisms are blatantly failing, we have very little ability to sense the actual truth of things.
- jmspring 5y ago
  It's just easier to avoid discussions. It's stupid that people who can be completely rational about most things become someone different around certain topics. Spending most of my time in a county in CA that 55-60% are pro conspiracy theory, it's just easier to avoid certain topics.
  - WhisperingShiba 5y ago
    The struggle is that some of what we think is reality is actually not reality. What I learned is its only a conspiracy theory if you don't believe it /right now/. And what you believe right now is highly influenced by your culture, parents and media. In a Nietzscheian sense, I have had to start from ground zero, about what I believe, and derive understandings through direct experience of nature. Unfortunately this is slower than consensus, so I also choose to trust sources on non-political topics such as math, physics, and construction/engineering. These days I look back on how much I used to think was truth, and I later came to a realization that it was actually illusion... I don't take much as blind fact these days, and try to stick close to things I can easily understand and get immediate feedback on, such as math, engineering and growing plants. Unfortunately, since so much of my life also consists of economy and psychology, I can't completely ignore the facets of reality out of my control. At least when people tell me they actually believe in a conspiracy theory, they can give me some pre-formatted viewpoint which I cant test their premises against.